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To: Sam who wrote (278376)	9/11/2015 11:43:42 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540735

What you say Sam is partially true. But as we watch the government shut down over ideological differences - Congress is at a new low for even them. Liberals blame it on republicans and conservatives blame it on democrats. What people are fed up with is not the ideological differences - it is that congress behaves like children in refusing to compromise. Couple that with the increasing influence of money - big money - and people feel helpless to the whims of money interest. ........There have always been ideological differences - my gosh think of the civil war for instance. People get the differences - well most do. But they feel congress is suppose to be the big boys in the room and through compromise be able to get things done and keep the government running. I believe people feel left out of the political process and are showing their frustration. The economy IS generating plenty of jobs for everyone - we are near full employment. $15 a dollar jobs as a minimum is increasingly getting traction.

To: Sam who wrote (278376)	9/11/2015 4:18:05 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 540735

Well said: <<Todds thinking is even further in the weeds. Everyone is overthinking this. People are just mad at government. Simple. Steve, it is far too simple. Government in our democracy is a reflection of the people in the country. What people really are "mad at" is the fact that we live in a fractured highly diversified society with hugely disparate interests and belief systems. It is both economically and ideologically diverse (I am using the term "ideological" here to cover "religion" as well as "philosophy"; that is, generic systems of belief, overall mindsets) and fractured. The economy used to generate plenty of jobs for people who had many different levels of education. And it used to be the case that people could discriminate against certain groups pretty much with impunity. Neither of these things are true any more and the friction is palpable. People being "mad at government" is really shorthand for saying that people are mad at our current socio-cultural historical situation.