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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (6947)	12/22/1997 5:03:00 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213173

Patricia and all, QT 3.O is out as a beta. Haven't tried it yet but will report next week. Interesting. One thing about the stock market. Prices are driven by perception. EDS just bought 1.5 BILLION worth of licenses from IBM and IBM is just barely up. computerworld.com Oracle has just sold a huge amount of software and consulting to the Australian Government, and its Developer/2000 2.0 software is getting good to glowing reviews (PCWEEK Dec. 15), but it heads way south, Way South, on short term news. Most of the stuff I read about Oracle seems to be good news. It does have a fairly high PE at 33(?) or so. The thing is, a lot of investors do understand the implications of technology but most only understand brand names. When things look bad or good on the surface... About the speculative ideas on this thread. What Apple or others companies SHOULD do is immaterial, HOWEVER what they might do is valuable information. I have read some speculation that ORACLE and NETSCAPE might merge. It seems to me that such a merger would be beneficial to both parties, and network commerce. I disagree about UNIX weakening. I believe the weakness is just temporary. I base this belief on the fact that the net is UNIX based. And the net is just getting started. Think about this. It's a rainy dark night. You want to buy that CD or Video and watch it by the fire with your love interest. You can get in the car, fight traffic, drive to Tower, search in Tower, wait in line, and drive back. OR you can download it onto your CD-R during dinner. And remember the music business is BIGGER than the Movie business. UNIX works, NT works sometimes, for awhile. This net thing will change everything. Although I think Apple would benefit from an Apple/Oracle network computer I don't think it will prove to be a big deal financially. Rhapsody is Apples real hope, the perception that it creates. It's incredible how many of my fellow students think PCs are faster. I made many converts showing them a Quick Time video on a 120 mhz 604 and then showing them the same QT on a duel 200 mhz Pentium Intergraph machine. No Contest. Smooth as butter on a Mac, hardly plays, really doesn't play, on the Intergraph. And yes I know QT is Apple based, but try AVIs. Garbage! I'm interested in the truth not bias. Macs have better FPU performance and parity with Intel on Integer based calculations as far as I understand. And 233 G3s are about $1700 retail now. Apparently Apple is finally getting its act together on education. Apple reps and My Department at UCLA had a long conference last week. Intel/Intergraph have been more generous recently. Hopefully this will change, and we will be seeing some free G3s smoke around here. Apple (reportedly) will be giving away Rhapsody free to educational institutions, we have a beta copy. Jobs ain't that bad, he's been involved in two successes, and technically NeXT was a success, if not financially. Can anygeek recommend an alternative to the Netscape/Explorer browser crap? I just want something that will handle minimal graphics and text, don't think mosaic does graphics, does it? Doren

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (6947)	12/23/1997 10:18:00 AM
From: BillHoo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213173

"I am niot sure how the new Apple OS will shakle down in this world. Apparently it seems to be abit buggy, and only runs on some machines." If you're talking about OS8 I agree. From a tech's perspective, I (among others) find it buggy. On corporate corporate networks there seem to be many things that can trigger a crash. Luckily these are not random crashes. They are triggered by certain combinations of software, or network functions, so I at least have an explaination to the user when things happen. Unfortunately, I have no solutions except to scold the user and remove OS8 from their machines and reinstall system 7.5.5 (Sys 7.6 is not yet approved for our environment.) I have talked to an Apple Sales rep about the problem and he appears to be aggressively pressuring the software vendors to make OS8 compatible versions of their software. The biggest problem we have here is with ChemDraw. Being a pharmaceutical research company with over 2,000 installed Powermac 8500, 8600, 9600 and soon to be rolled out G3s, we would like to have the ability to run ChemDraw on our machines. OS8 from a user's perspective is great! From a tech perspective, it's a good product, but it needs the bugs worked out. I bought it, but I'm waiting for some bug fix/upgrades before I permanently install it on my work machine. Otherwise, it's terrific for my home machine. -Bill_H