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To: combjelly who wrote (891312)10/3/2015 2:13:26 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1573782
 
Can you believe the Weiner Defender is commenting on my posts without reading them?

The point is that abiotic isoprene is a cooling factor that is NOT in warmist global climate models. Thus the existing models have a bias to overstate warming.

Weiner Defender thinks it's only changes in the production of VOC's that matter:

And there is no evidence that the rate of production has changed. Nor has there been a documented increase in low level cloud formation which could be the result of an increase in isoprene production.

Not so. A major cooling factor shouldn't be omitted whether or not it's increasing.
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.....According to an announcement just issued by the German government's Leibniz Institute for Tropospheric Research:

Atmospheric chemists from France and Germany, however, can now show that isoprene can also be formed without biological sources in the surface film of the oceans by sunlight and so explain the large discrepancy between field measurements and models. The new identified photochemical reaction is therefore important to improve the climate models.

Global models at the moment assume total emissions of isoprene from all sources - trees, plants, plankton, the lot - of around 1.9 megatons per year. But, according to the new research, the newly discovered "abiotic" process releases as much as 3.5 megatons on its own - which "could explain the recent disagreements" between models and reality.

"We were able for the first time to trace back the production of this important aerosol precursor to abiotic sources. So far global calculations consider only biological sources," explains Dr Christian George from French lab the Institute of Catalysis and Environment, in Lyon.

VOCs such as isoprene are known to be a powerful factor in the climate, as they cause the formation of aerosol particles. Some kinds of aerosol, for instance black soot, warm the world up: but the ones resulting from VOCs actually cool it down substantially by acting as nuclei for the formation of clouds. It has previously been suggested that production of VOCs by pine forests could be a negative feedback so powerful that it "limits climate change from reaching such levels that it could become really a problem in the world."

With the discovery of the new abiotic sea process, the idea that cutting carbon emissions may not be all that urgent is looking stronger. That's probably good news, as it has emerged lately that efforts to cut carbon emissions to date are having the unfortunate side effect of poisoning us all.

theregister.co.uk