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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (891943)10/6/2015 5:11:42 PM
From: Bill2 Recommendations

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  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577111
 
I'm still waiting to see all those gun waving nutcakes you fantasize about.

You should join the NRA and get yourself educated.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (891943)10/6/2015 5:25:23 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577111
 
But it does require a militia to have a free state, not a bunch of gun waving nutcakes..

The militia, according to the history of the time, and according to US law, consists of people with their own weapons. Well regulated, in terms that the founders would have used it in this context, refers to drilled and capable. Which would obviously contribute to their effectiveness. Being a nutcase not so much, but a strong majority of gun owners are not nutcases.

why not just let the phrase out and you would have the amendment you think you have

Either way we have the amendment that I think we have. If the founders wanted what you think they would have said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Of course even if they did that according to long standing US law about the militia all able bodied men between 17 and 45 would have a constitutional right to bear arms, as would women in the organized militia (the national guard and military reserves). A bit sexist if the right was applied that way, but if the 2nd had been limited to men (except women in organized milita/reserve organizations) the 14th would likely extend it to women as well.

But then a simple change in statue law would remove legal recognition of the right, so fortunately it isn't just a right for militia members.