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To: Bonefish who wrote (893278)	10/12/2015 4:01:38 PM
From: Land Shark	Respond to of 1576762

Heat is absorbed by the ocean near the equator. That heat is naturally dissipated in a couple of ways. It's called ENSO. The magnitude of the oscillation is getting larger. This years El Nino is going to be a doozy. The AGW alarmists were predicting cat 6 (200 mph) storms years ago. Doesn't seem to be happening. You seem to neglect to mention the three Cat 4-5 cyclones that occurred simultaneously in the Pacific. You neglect to mention that the "fun" of climate change is just starting. I.e. we are entering a period which we're hotter than the normal bandwidth. It's getting hotter and hotter. This year is going to be another record. 2014 was a record. Extreme weather occurrences WILL become more and more frequent in the future. It's not just magnitude it's also FREQUENCY. Deniers love to use the word "alarmists". I'll call the deniers "head in the sanders".

To: Bonefish who wrote (893278)	10/12/2015 4:03:41 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576762

"Heat is absorbed by the ocean near the equator" All the oceans absorb heat, as long as the air temperature is greater than the water temperature. Here's an article about heat flux in the Arctic. I-node's prolly read it, since he's read all the important papers. The Surface Heat Budget of the Arctic Ocean (SHEBA) study was a National Science Foundation-funded research project designed to quantify the heat transfer processes that occur between the ocean and the atmosphere over the course of a year in the Arctic Ocean, where the sun is above the horizon from spring through summer and below the horizon the rest of the time. The study was designed to provide data for use in global climate models, which scientists use to study global climate change. [1] The scientists found clouds to be common at the ship's location throughout the year. In the midwinter, there was reportedly overcast 40% of the time and in the summer the sky was continually overcast. Air temperature was 0.6°C lower than the regional climatological average temperature. With no sun in the winter, the net flow of heat (flux) was from the surface of the ocean to the sky, marked with large differences in flux with changes in cloud cover. In April the flux changed toward solar warming of the surface of the sea, which reached a maximum in July when sunlight was strongest and the ice developed melt ponds which were much darker than snow and could absorb sunlight more efficiently. [1] en.wikipedia.org SHEBA project description data.eol.ucar.edu