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To: combjelly who wrote (893389)	10/13/2015 11:20:55 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1572918

Cars, trucks and heavy equipment aren't designed to kill lots of people What they were designed for isn't a very important issue, what they actually do is more important. In any case killing people is a legitimate purpose for a tool. Nothing wrong in designing such a tool, or using it for that purpose, as long as its legitimately used for that purpose. Murder is illegal. Self defense is not. And of course that's not the only purpose for guns. (Just as getting to some destination isn't the only purpose for cars). Its not true that every car owner is. Then they are breaking the law. Not at all. The "is" in the statement you quoted above is (as the context in my post makes clear) "is required to purchase liability insurance". It is not true that every car owner is required to purchase liability insurance. Some states don't require any auto insurance at all. Others states only require that you pay a fee (such as $500 in VA) if you don't have insurance. The fee is not some sort of high risk pool, no insurance is provided for paying the fee. Other states only have an insurance requirement for cars driven on public roads.

To: combjelly who wrote (893389)	10/13/2015 12:43:17 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572918

Do you have an analysis that shows a different outcome? ==== AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BANApril 13, 2009 It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner. Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime: In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates: Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner. Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," Free Republic, April 9, 2009. For text: freerepublic.com - See more at: ncpa.org

To: combjelly who wrote (893389)	10/13/2015 12:49:05 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572918

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade By JAMES SLACK FOR THE DAILY MAIL UPDATED: 03:42 EST, 27 October 2009 29 View comments Gun crime has increased five-fold in some parts of the UK Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold. The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent. In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold. In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled. The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place. Last week, police in London revealed they had begun carrying out armed patrols on some streets. The move means officers armed with sub-machine guns are engaged in routine policing for the first time. Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Grayling, said last night: 'In areas dominated by gang culture, we're now seeing guns used to settle scores between rivals as well as turf wars between rival drug dealers. 'We need to redouble our efforts to deal with the challenge.' He added: 'These figures are all the more alarming given that it is only a week since the Metropolitan Police said it was increasing regular armed patrols in some areas of the capital'. The gun crime figures, which were obtained by the Tories from official Parliamentary answers, do not include air weapons. But they provide the first regional breakdown of the increasing use of firearms. Lancashire suffered the single largest rise in gun crime, with recorded offences increasing from 50 in 1998/99 to 349 in 2007/08, an increase of 598 per cent. Armed: Officers engaged in routine policing are carrying sub-machine guns for the first time Only four police forces - Cleveland-Humberside, Cambridgeshire and Sussex - recorded falls in gun crime. The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent . The figures follow a warning by Mr Grayling that U.S.-style gang culture has reached some parts of the UK. In August, he made a controversial speech warning that a collapse of 'civilised life' had allowed a brutal drug and gun crime culture - like that of the U.S. TV show The Wire - to flourish in Britain. The hit TV series tracks the nightmare of gangs and organised crime in inner city West Baltimore and the futile efforts of police to deal with them. The Met's decision to employ armed officers on the streets has attracted criticism. But the force, which has already begun the scheme, insists that the unprecedented tactic is a proportionate and temporary response to prevent armed gangs from controlling estates. Trident poster campaign warning of dangers of young women and girls storing and transporting guns for others Last month, police warned that teenage girls were now being dragged into the gun culture by hiding weapons for their boyfriends. Police are targeting girls between 15 and 19 with an advertising blitz warning them that they can expect a five-year prison sentence if they are caught. The number of women charged with firearms offences in London has increased six-fold in the past year - 12 have been charged since January. Seven of them were teenagers, including a 16-year-old arrested after a 9mm Browning self-loading pistol was found in her bedroom. Read more: dailymail.co.uk Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter \| DailyMail on Facebook

To: combjelly who wrote (893389)	10/13/2015 12:51:55 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 1572918

Australia's gun control: Success or failure? January 18, 2013\|Steve Chapman A display of 7-round handguns are seen at Coliseum Gun Traders Ltd. in Uniondale, New York January 16, 2013. (Shannon Stapleton) After a mass shooting in 1996, Australia enacted a sweeping package of gun restrictions far more ambitious than anything plausible here -- including a total ban on semiautomatic weapons, a mandatory gun buyback, and strict limits on who could own a firearm. John Howard, who was prime minister at the time, wrote the other day that his country "is safer today as a consequence of gun control." You would think such dramatic new restrictions were bound to help. But the striking thing is how little effect they had on gun deaths. It's true the homicide rate fell after the law took effect -- but it had also been falling long before that. A study published by the liberal Brookings Institution noted that the decline didn't accelerate after 1996. Same for lethal accidents. Suicide didn't budge. At most, they conclude "there may" -- may -- "have been a modest effect on homicide rates." Researchers at the University of Melbourne, however, found no such improvement as a result of the new system. "There is little evidence to suggest that it had any significant effects on firearm homicides or suicides," they wrote. Howard says the country has had no mass shootings since 1996. But mass shootings are such a tiny share of all homicides that any connection may be purely a matter of chance. We learned from the 1994 assault weapons ban that modest gun control measures don't work. What Australia suggests is that even if radical ones could be passed, they wouldn't work either.