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To: jeffbas who wrote (2866)12/23/1997 1:29:00 AM
From: Michael Burry  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78666
 
Jeffrey Re: HYDEA

1. No insider buying
2. A historic underperformer - current value is at low end of
historic range, but it is an oscillator.
3. relatively little impact from Asia vs peers esp Nike Adidas

I like companies with great management and insider buying -who
doesn't? But there is also a portion of my portfolio for bad
managements mismanaging assets (such as the Saucony and Hind
brands) that would be worth more under different management.
As you know, that one of about 3 things acquirers look for.
If I had 28 million and knew the shoe marketing business, I might
want to take a shot at acquiring the Saucony brand and the Hind
brand on the cheap and improving on them.

But the story here is it is a Graham net net strategy - we
are not counting on better management or acquisition, but rather
that it will fluctuate back to net quick assets as it has in the past.

Looks like net nets wouldn't fit with your style of investing.
I basically agree on PD - profits are still too fat and the PE
is still too low, but I
am interested because PD seems to be the class outfit, and long-term
copper supply/demand characteristics are favorable. Just trying
to time my buy.

Mike



To: jeffbas who wrote (2866)12/23/1997 8:48:00 AM
From: James Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78666
 
HYDEA - No insider buying to speak of, the stock has been stuck in a trading range between 4 and 6 for years. As for Asia, I think that's completely irrelevant for Hyde's business. So the answers to your questions are not good. But when a stock is trading for 2/3 of net-net value, you don't expect perfection. You're pretty satisfied if the company is profitable and the business stable.