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To: RMF who wrote (894469)10/17/2015 12:59:18 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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You want to be reasonable I'm sure. The problem with gun regulations they work only on people who aren't any danger to society. People that are the problem(!) like the inner city gangs, crazed haters of Christians, blacks, whites (Umpqua, Charleston, etc), spontaneous jihadists (like in Australia, Chattanooga, ....) are motivated to arm themselves regardless of what the law says. Disarming society just makes us more vulnerable to them.

On another issue:

Climate - here are a couple sites you might find interesting that no liberal should have an ideological reason to reject - the first has a massive amount of info:
What I Learned about Climate Change: The Science is not Settled
https://medium.com/@pullnews/what-i-learned-about-climate-change-the-science-is-not-settled-1e3ae4712ace

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/what-the-climate-wars-did-to-science.aspx



To: RMF who wrote (894469)10/17/2015 1:46:48 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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FJB

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Re reasonableness, you should be aware a lot of people on the left have climate opinions that are driven by an anti-human or anti-civilization ideology:

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (280950)10/16/2015 3:11:23 PM
From: stsimonRead Replies (1) of 280973
The last chance to end the climate disaster was likely the mid 19th century. The invention of anesthesia in the 19th century and antibiotics in the 20th century, which led to the catastrophic decline in the human death rate, made the climate disaster and mass extinction of the 21 Century essentially inevitable. Barring the unlikely possibility some fluke disease wiping out many billions of people soon, the cake is baked. IMHO.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=30278291

To: stsimon who wrote (280969)10/16/2015 3:58:39 PM
From: SamRespond to of 280973
Not to worry--the microworld is fighting back.

Half of Bugs That Cause Infections After Surgery are Antibiotic Resistant
http://time.com/4075590/deaths-caused-by-antibiotic-resistant-bugs/
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?subjectid=55719&msgid=30278291



You didn't know antibiotics and anesthesia were BAD things? You just don't have good enough values as lefties see it. Notice the absence of sane replies. Note Rat (who is a retired med technician) had not a contrary word to say .... the same guy who'd argue with me if I said the sky was blue.



To: RMF who wrote (894469)10/17/2015 2:05:20 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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Bad things happen when liberals push gun control too far. Americans will rebel and refuse to obey bad laws. See WA, CT, and NY as examples:

NEW YORK
In NY state, the legislature passed a regulation that over a million gun owners are refusing to obey. Most counties are refusing to enforce the law:

NEW YORKERS SEND MESSAGE TO WOULD-BE TYRANT CUOMO: Take Your Illegal Gun Law and Shove It




By Rusty Weiss



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NY's corrupt legislature passed a stupid anti-gun law in 2013, 98% of gun owners aren't obeying it, all but a handful of loyalist counties have officially repudiated the law and almost all the sheriffs in the state have said they will not enforce the state's anti-gun law.

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Via the Daily News:

Fewer than 45,000 assault-style weapons have been registered in New York state since a landmark gun control act took effect in 2013, state records released Tuesday show, suggesting that Empire State gun owners are largely ignoring one of the signature elements of the watershed legislation.

In the years since Gov. Cuomo signed the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act, otherwise known as the NY SAFE Act, a total of 23,847 people have applied to register their assault-style weapons with the state, according to statistics provided by the New York State Police.

Those individuals themselves registered 44,485 assault-style weapons — a term whose definition under the law was expanded to include military-style features like a pistol grip and popular civilian models of the M16 and AK47 assault rifles — with State Police, the data, which was first obtained by the Albany Times Union, show.

By comparison, individuals in Connecticut, a state with roughly one-fifth the population of New York, registered more than 50,000 assault-style weapons after similar legislation was passed there in April 2013.

Officials have estimated than over a million such guns are in circulation in New York.

Under the SAFE Act, non-compliance with the registration of one’s guns could result in either a misdemeanor or felony charge, with a possibility of 1-4 years in prison.

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Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin tweeted that “The numbers don’t ‘suggest’ noncompliance. The numbers are a flat out declaration of non compliance.”
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http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2015/06/new-yorkers-send-message-to-would-be.html

CONNECTICUTT
Same thing happened in CT:

..... Connecticut, where anti-gun laws rammed through a similar law in the wake of Sandy Hook saw at least 85% of the Constitution State’s gun owners defiantly refuse to register their firearms, some going so far as to dare Governor Dannel Malloy and the Connecticut State Police to attempt confiscation.

Connecticut wisely backed down, stepping away enforcement and from almost certain insurrection.

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Upstate law enforcement agencies still openly, defiantly refuse to enforce provisions of the NY SAFE Act, and prosecutions under the law are best described as a “trickle,” and typically only occur as part of a “kitchen sink” charging process against criminals arrested for other crimes.

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http://bearingarms.com/empire-state-rebellion-new-yorkers-refused-register-95-percent-assault-weapons/

WASHINGTON
WA Gun Owners Stage The Largest Felony Civil Disobedience Rally In America’s History



At the end of the rally, gun owners burned their concealed weapons permits and signed a petition vowing to refuse to follow the new gun control law. The petition ended with the text, “We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”This certainly isn’t the first large scale act of civil disobedience by gun owners in defiance of gun laws. Earlier this year in Connecticut hundreds of thousands of gun owners refused to send in their gun registration forms, also becoming felons. Similar numbers of gun owners in New York have also refused to send in their registration paperwork and some even video taped themselves burning the forms.

Fed up with the passage of an 18½-page incoherent, rambling, unconstitutional gun control initiative that was bankrolled by billionaires, gun owners across Washington state held the largest felony civil disobedience rally in the nation’s history, brazenly titled “I Will Not Comply.” No one was hurt and no stores were looted. Between 1,000 and 3,000 lawful gun owners showed up openly armed at the state capitol in Olympia, Wash., on Saturday to defy the newly passed gun control law, I-594.

Organizer Gavin Seim made the extraordinary nature of the rally very clear, “This isn’t just a protest. We are here to openly violate the law.” Attendees publicly transferred their guns to each other in violation of I-591’s background check provisions, and some even bought and sold guns just a few feet away from law enforcement. A fire pit blazed throughout the rally, and at the conclusion, gun owners lined up to burn their concealed weapons permits. A petitionwas circulated affirming gun owners’ refusal to follow I-594, which ended with, “We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”

As the RSVPs in advance of the rally grew to over 6,000, the police – most who probably detest I-594 – decided not to enforce the law. The Washington State Patrol announced there would be no arrests for exchanging guns – not even for selling guns. Seim refused to obtain a permit to hold the rally, citing the right of people to peaceably assemble.

The rally could not be dismissed as fringe elements. Several lawmakers and lawmen spoke, including former Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack of Arizona, Washington State Rep. Elizabeth Scott (R-Monroe) and Rep. Graham Hunt (R-Orting), who sported an AR-15 during his speech. Mack advised gun owners engaging in civil disobedience to “put your sheriff next to you to keep it peaceful.” Scott defiantly explained in her speech, “I will not comply with I-594 because it is unconstitutional, unenforceable and unjust. It is impossible to enforce this law unless there is a police officer on every back porch and in every living room. So it will be enforced selectively.” She noted that Founding Father Alexander Hamilton said any law that violates the Constitution is not valid, and there is a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws.

Seim, a political activist and congressional candidate, wrote on his website, “Today I become an OUTLAW! Arrest me! I will NOT comply.” He led the rally peacefully, and at one point asked everyone attending to kneel with him in prayer. As he led the crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance, he stressed, “I am not pledging obedience to the government, it is to the Republic. We don’t ask for our rights, and we don’t negotiate for our rights. We will take America back.”

Another speaker explained what was happening this way, “We no longer consent nor comply.” Mike Vanderboegh, whose Three Percenter movement is modeled after the three percent of the colonists who fought in the American War of Independence, said that those at the rally are the resistance behind enemy lines. The resistance is also taking place in a handful of other states with strict gun control laws, where patriots are now smuggling in weapons illegally. Vanderboegh told attendees, “This is the tyranny the Founding Fathers warned us about. Tyranny can be voted into existence by a majority. We will not fire the first shot, but if need be, we will fire the last.”

Gun control zealots have finally gone too far. Gun owners are now discovering that the police in New York are using gun control laws to confiscate guns from family members within days after their owners pass away. Hundreds of thousands of gun owners in Connecticut and New York who failed to register their AR-15s earlier this year are now felons. Requiring the registration of guns or requiring background checks, as I-594 does, allows the government to compile a list of gun owners, which can be used later for confiscation.

If guns cause crime, then why wasn’t there a single mishap, considering there were 1,000 or so guns present and hundreds of violations of felony law taking place? Tellingly, Washington State Trooper Guy Gill predicted beforehand, “”Most of these folks are responsible gun owners. We probably will not have an issue.” The truth is, the state capitol was probably the safest place in the state last Saturday.

Patriots have had enough. The Second Amendment is gradually being eroded, state by state, and gun owners are not going to lie down and give up their arms. A handful of billionaires and elitists in blue cities like Seattle do not respect the Constitution nor represent the vast majority of Americans. Another rally in Olympia is planned for January 15, and another one in Spokane on December 20. The Second Amendment Foundation, headquartered in Bellevue, intends to sue the state over I-594, and will be lobbying the legislature to get the law changed or repealed. Washington state is now ground zero for patriotic gun owners resisting tyranny, which is at a tipping point since law enforcement does not intend to enforce I-594.

What happens next?

http://www.truthandaction.org/largest-felony-civil-disobedience-rally-americas-history/2/