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To: Bonefish who wrote (894476)10/17/2015 12:44:15 AM
From: RMF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573691
 
What I was saying to Brumar is exactly what you are saying now.

The NRA guys don't give a crap about gun ownership. They just want to make as much money as they can as long as they can.

They want things as heated as possible to get as much money as possible.

Clinton's stuff about gun manufacturers is natural because it's the opposite. She wants to go ALL the WAY so she can come back and seem reasonable.

It's pretty basic debating technique.



To: Bonefish who wrote (894476)10/17/2015 1:08:23 AM
From: i-node  Respond to of 1573691
 
There definitely is a slippery slope problem here. But I'm really tired of the wrong government solutions to the wrong problems. We see it over and over and over again. Improper analysis of problems and the result is problems aren't solved.

Just look at this Obamacare train wreck and you know what I'm talking about. It was going to control cost. Nope. It was going to provide choice. Nope, nope, nope. It was going to improve care. Hell no.

And in fact it hasn't done, and will not do, ANY of the things it promised. It has peaked and it is headed the wrong direction. It is the worst example but far from the only one.

I'm still looking for the example of government regulation improving things because I haven't seen it. The downsides just practically always outweigh the upsides over time.



To: Bonefish who wrote (894476)10/17/2015 9:50:34 AM
From: d[-_-]b  Respond to of 1573691
 
The libs have called for better verification prior to purchase etc. which some pro gun people could agree with.


Including the NRA - they were the first to support adding mental health records to the NICS system. It's organizations like the ACLU that has blocked this type of check. But no one ever brings up their name in the debates - it's always the big bad NRA.

providencejournal.com

R.I. law bars release of mental health data for gun checks
The state’s nearly 40-year-old law explicitly prohibits disclosure of mental health records unless patients or their guardians give written permission. It also keeps court records and proceedings dealing with mental health issues confidential.

The state affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union, in written testimony to the task force, said state participation in NICS is voluntary.

As a result, it varies across the country.As of November 2011, Rhode Island was one of 17 states that had given fewer than 10 mental health records to the system, and one of 44 states that had submitted fewer than 10 substance abuse records, the ACLU said.