To: Alighieri who wrote (897253 ) 10/29/2015 1:28:19 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574355 >> You can't just wish it away...when measured on a per capita basis, the answer is that the US is much more expensive than nations with single payer. Al, this is the heart of the argument between right and left. The left assumes, for some unknown reason, that single payer will mitigate cost in the US. There is certainly no evidence to that effect and you cannot get to it rationally. The Left's argument, apparently, is that "other countries do it." But that argument doesn't hold water under examination. When only health care factors are considered, the US has better health care outcomes than any country. Yes, you can throw exogenous factors like gun violence, drug addiction, etc., and make US care look bad. But a few months ago I walked into the Arkansas Heart Hospital and got a CT scan and calcium scoring for $50. Not covered by insurance. You tell me where else you'll find that. Why can a person walk into the best cardiac care unit in our state, spend $50 and get that procedure? One reason: Competition. For that matter, why did EMI invent the CAT scan but fail when trying to bring it to market, yet in the US it was quickly turned into the standard for imaging it has now become? Strong capital markets and competition. But we're nowhere compared with where we might have been, had a better alternative to Medicare/Medicaid been developed at the outset. They are drags on our health care economy that are dying, but need to be killed off thoughtfully and without destroying the population. Instead, we have the Left pushing for more of what we already know doesn't work.Al, it is not too complicated: You can have systems that work well in a place where government is different, where there are fewer layers of bureaucracy, and where the population is minuscule. Yet, the same system clearly will not work here. Health care is one of them. And I don't know why this is so difficult for so many to see.