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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (12936)10/30/2015 3:43:07 PM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 17105
 
I don't think it's that dead simple.

If it were true that wheat and corn were the devils per se then Mayans would have high C and HD, which could be divined by archaeology to a degree. It is true that Egyptians had plaque, but their diet was varied, and was by no means, simple carb loaded. And for sure they had no insecticides or herbicides. Mummys that we can look at however are of rich people whose diets would be rich and who would lead relative to the time fairly sedentary lives on would think.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Recent studies on the inhabitants of the low plains, the Mayas, have concluded that during the Neolithic formative period (the fourth to third millennia B.C.), these people were skillful in selecting and handing down the crops that were vital for their survival. The most important was corn. Indeed, the Maya called it “ishin,” which mean “center” – a symbolic double meaning signifying its critical role in differentiating populations that subsisted principally on agriculture from those that subsisted by hunting and gathering. Adams has shown that the intake of corn in the present Mayan diet is equal to 2500 kcal/day per person. If this is comparable to the consumption of the ancient Maya, their primitive agricultural system was, in fact, highly specialized to provide sufficient food for the calculated density of the population. Corn was the staple, but they also ate a variety of other foods. The Maya had domesticated fruits and vegetables such as the anone, avocado, tuayaba, passion fruit, zucchini, tomatoes, carrots, beans, and sweet potatoes. This diet of fruit and vegetables was complemented by fishing and hunting and by domesticated food animals, including turkeys and dogs (which were eaten during special feasts or during famines). 4"

"In 1964, Dante Pazzanese et al. 9 evaluated 53 Indians with a predominantly vegetarian (VEG) diet and a high level of physical activity living in a central region of Brazil. In clinical, electrocardiographical, and laboratory exams, the authors observed very low values for serum lipids and no evidence of clinical atherosclerosis. In 1966, Faro Netto et al. 10 also observed lower levels of LDL-C (low-density-lipoprotein cholesterol) in 53 natives of the Xingu River jungle with a predominantly VEG diet and a high level of physical activity. In 1968, Ruiz and Peñaloza 11 reported on the blood pressure of Peruvian highlanders with a predominantly VEG diet. They observed lower levels of blood pressure compared to coastal individuals."



To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (12936)10/30/2015 3:50:10 PM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17105
 
"The Tarahumara Indians from Mexico have attracted special medical attention because of their remarkable physical endurance and their diet, which contains very little food from animal sources. They inhabit the rugged Sierra Madre Occidental Mountains in the north-central state of Chihuahua, Mexico. Members of this tribe have an exceptional capacity for exercise. 12, 13 Scattered anthropological reports suggest that the diet of the Tarahumaras consists primarily of beans, corn, and squash. 12, 14* Connor, 15 evaluating 523 healthy Tarahumara, observed cholesterol intake to be 72 mg/day, while fat comprised only 12% of total calories. The mean plasma total cholesterol (TC) was 125 mg, and triglyceride was (TG) 120 mg/dl. They showed an excellent correlation between intake of cholesterol from 20 to 150 mg/dl and TC levels. Adult Tarahumara have low plasma TC levels, averaging 136 mg/dl. 16 In another study, the same authors enrolled eight Tarahumara men in a cholesterol-feeding experiment with two dietary periods of 3 weeks: first a baseline, cholesterol-free diet followed by a second one containing 1000 mg of cholesterol provided in the form of egg yolk. Other than different cholesterol content, the diets were identical, with the bulk of calories derived from corn and beans. Plasma cholesterol level increased from 113 to 134 mg/dl after feeding dietary cholesterol; LDL-C rose similarly.* This net increase of 34 mg/dl, or 30%, in plasma cholesterol was, roughly, similar to the changes already described in normocholesterolemic U.S. subjects having a different dietary background."

*Beans corns and squash are the North American native staples. In most "Indian" languages, they are known as the "three sisters".

* dietary cholesterol increases serum or blood cholesterol levels. my, my... what ho Time Magazine and many modern pundits. So the Russian Doctors in 1890 and myriads of physicians, not to mention scientific studies on exogenous oxidized cholesterol were ...~shudder, gasp*, right!? "The horror Mistah Kurtz, the horror? We have travelled the artery of darkness on the SS Foodaholic and arrived at the Plaque jungle and we scarce know how we got into this mess.." (Humblest Apologia to Joseph Conrad.)