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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (899404)11/7/2015 12:46:35 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576691
 
One thing we know is the left intends to enact strict speech control on the nation. This is just one more proof of that. Carbon is no threat ... you fascists are.

Added: Liberals are not nice people, they don't mean well. They are nasty people with evil in their hearts.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (899404)11/7/2015 12:59:13 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1576691
 
Why The LA Times Did Not Publish Their “Smoking Gun” Against Exxon

Because their "smoking gun" actually undercuts the warmists story.

November 7, 2015
By Paul Homewood



http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2015/11/05/a-case-for-readers-to-read-for-themselves/

Exxon respond to the LA Times hit piece:

In its reportage on climate change research at ExxonMobil, the Los Angeles Times made a very telling editorial decision.

The paper chose not to publish the document it cites as Exhibit A in its case against us: a 1989 presentation to Exxon’s board of directors by senior company scientist Duane Levine.

I have no doubt why the newspaper doesn’t want the public to see this document.

When you read it – which you can do here – it soon becomes clear that the document undercuts the paper’s claims that ExxonMobil knew with certainty everything there is to know about global warming back in the 1980s yet failed to sound alarms.

By deliberately hiding this report from readers (while simultaneously citing it to make damaging claims about our corporation’s history of scientific research), the Los Angeles Times undermines the already low levels of trust in the media and in the media’s ability to cover issues of science and policy with accuracy and fairness.

Here’s what the L.A. Times wrote in its most recent piece:

Duane Levine, Exxon’s manager of science and strategy development, gave a primer to the company’s board of directors in 1989, noting that scientists generally agreed gases released by burning fossil fuels could raise global temperatures significantly by the middle of the 21st century — between 2.7 and 8.1 degrees Fahrenheit — causing glaciers to melt and sea levels to rise, “with generally negative consequences.”

Case closed, or so the Times would have you think.

But here’s the crucial part the L.A. Times left out from the very first page of Levine’s presentation (PEG stands for “Potential Enhanced Greenhouse,” by the way):



What else did the paper neglect to quote from Levine’s presentation? Consider this passage from page 31:



Furthermore, the supposed coup de grace in the L.A. Times story was an attempt to uncover “ExxonMobil’s position” as one of doubt and obfuscation. The evidence, the Times made clear, came directly from the Levine presentation. Here’s what the paper wrote:

So Levine laid out a plan for the “Exxon Position”: In order to stop the momentum behind the issue, Levine said Exxon should emphasize that doubt. Tell the public that more science is needed before regulatory action is taken, he argued, and emphasize the “costs and economics”

As it turns out, the report actually has a section entitled “Exxon’s Position.” And here is, word-for-word, how it is laid out in the presentation:

Exxon’s Position

  • Improve Understanding
    • Extend the Science
    • Include the Costs/Economics
    • Face Social-Political Realities
  • Stress Environmentally Sound and Adaptive Efforts
    • Support Conservation
    • Restrict CFCs
    • Improve Global Re/De Forestation

In fact, here’s the screenshot from the actual report, which also includes Levine’s conclusion that to be a “responsible participant and part of the solution” to the climate change challenge, the company should continue research, support energy efficiency, reduce emissions, and pursue new technologies.

(Click image to enlarge.)



Is it any wonder the L.A. Times chose not to disclose this document to its readers? Or that the paper continues to fail to make the presentation available on its website?

Doing so would reveal its investigative work is not only unsupported by the supposed evidence, but is actually completely undermined by their “prize document” in a way that casts serious doubt on the ethics and agendas of its reporters.

Levine’s presentation from 25 years ago makes clear we wanted to pursue – and support – greater scientific understanding, which we have done and continue to do.

Does the Levine document prove, as some claim, that our corporation was convinced beyond all doubt a quarter century ago that global climate change would happen and what the effects would be?

Hardly. Even in 2015, the leading international scientific authority on climate change – the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change – acknowledges wide gaps in climate science exist that further research must address.

Without producing the Levine document for readers to judge for themselves, the Times felt it could make whatever claims it wants, while expecting readers to rely on the reporters’ interpretations for accuracy.

Of course, this is not 1989, when media consumers only had a few options, a few city papers dominated, and there was no Internet.

In 2015, we know from cases like this that blind trust in those claiming to have the truth is unwarranted.

For those interested in finding real solutions to the risks of climate change – whether you are an elected leader, a policymaker, or concerned member of the public – it starts with doing your own due diligence.

The whole business is, in any event, utterly ludicrous. If Exxon knew all about the science 26 years ago, why didn’t anybody else?

Why did they even bother to set up the IPCC in the first place, or spend tens of billions on climate research since, if Exxon already had all the answers?

And, if it really was such common knowledge, why is not the Federal Government in the dock for doing nothing about it?

  1. These malicious attempts to smear Exxon are just another tactic used by the climate establishment to distract attention away from the real issues, and cast doubt on those who dare to question the “settled science”

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/why-the-la-times-did-not-publish-their-smoking-gun-against-exxon/#more-18217

    ristvan permalink

  2. November 7, 2015 4:37 pm
  3. It would appear that Exxon has a cause of action against both the LAT and InsideClimateNews based on the way both have misrepresented the Exxon materials.





  1. Gary H permalink

  2. November 7, 2015 5:08 pm

  3. And of course, NOAA agreed with Exxon’s view, in 1989:

  4. Santa Cruz newspaper, Dec 7, 1989:

  5. “In spite of all the well-publicized concern about global warming, you must understand that there is still considerable uncertainty among scientific experts about a number of critical factors which determine global warming,” NOAA administrator John Knauss said in a statement issued for the geophysics meeting.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (899404)11/7/2015 1:19:52 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576691
 
Is the government tinkering with global warming data? – Judith Curry

"Some said that adjusting reliable ocean surface buoy data upwards to match much less reliable data from engine intake channels in ships causes an artificial upward trend in the readings."

November 6, 2015

By Paul Homewood



http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/11/05/is-government-tinkering-with-global-warming-data.html

Judith Curry has this guest post on Fox News:

The hottest topic in climate research is the observation that global average surface temperature, as well as satellite observations of temperatures in the atmosphere, has shown little or no warming during the 21st century.

Now the political climate is heating up over the same issue. Heated words began circulating last summer, when a team of government scientists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), led by Thomas Karl, published a paper in Science titled “Possible Artifacts Of Data Biases In The Recent Global Surface Warming Hiatus.”

The press release from NOAA included this statement from Karl, who is head of the National Centers for Environmental Information: “Adding in the last two years of global surface temperature data and other improvements in the quality of the observed record provide evidence that contradict the notion of a hiatus in recent global warming trends.”

Media headlines quickly touted the Karl conclusion that science now shows the hiatus in warming never existed.

The significance of the hiatus is that it contradicted the 2007 assessment report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which projected a rate of warming of 0.2oC per decade in the early part of the 21st century. The discrepancy between the climate models and the observations raised serious questions about the climate models.

Scientists on both sides of the debate have been critical of Karl’s paper and temperature adjustments made in the new data set, particularly the ocean data analysis.

Some said that adjusting reliable ocean surface buoy data upwards to match much less reliable data from engine intake channels in ships causes an artificial upward trend in the readings.

Another recent paper used a different NOAA ocean surface temperature data set to find that since 2003 the global average ocean surface temperature has been rising at a rate that is an order of magnitude smaller than the rate of increase reported in Karl’s paper.

Clearly, scientists have much work to do to better understand the problems with historical ocean temperature data, adjust the biases among different types of measurements, and understand the differences among different data sets.

But the hiatus fuss is also telling us about the politicization of climate science.

The surface temperature data set plays a central role in the political debate over climate change. In his 2015 State of the Union address, President Obama declared: “2014 was the planet’s warmest year on record.”

This statement followed a joint press release from NOAA’s Karl and Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, that said the same thing. The release was widely criticized for failing to point out that 2014 was in a statistical tie with several other recent years.

NOAA’s press release in June for Karl’s paper on the hiatus also appeared just before a big event: EPA was getting ready to issue its very controversial Clean Power Plan. And the politics are heating up even more with the approach of the United Nations Conference on Climate Change in Paris at the end of this month.

Last month, the House Science Committee, chaired by Lamar Smith (R-Texas), subpoenaed NOAA for data and communications relating to Karl’s article. NOAA is refusing to give up the documents, citing confidentiality concerns and the integrity of the scientific process.

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Tex) called the request “a serious misuse of Congressional oversight powers.”

Is the subpoena harassment or appropriate constitutional oversight?

There are two legitimate concerns here.

The first is data quality, an issue that needs to be resolved owing to the central role that this data set is playing in U.S. climate policy.

The second issue is arguably more worrisome and difficult to uncover: a potential alliance between NOAA scientists and Obama administration officials that might be biasing and spinning climate science to support a political agenda.

Rep. Smith stated: “The American people have every right to be suspicious when NOAA alters data to get the politically correct results they want and then refuses to reveal how those decisions were made.”

The House Committee’s investigation should provide insight into the following questions that deserve answers.

To what extent did internal discussions occur about the more questionable choices made in adjusting the ocean temperature data?

Was any concern raised about the discrepancies of the new ocean temperature data set and NOAA’s other ocean temperature data set (OISST) that shows no warming since 2003?

Were any Obama administration officials communicating with NOAA about these statements prior to issuing press releases?

Was the release of the land and ocean temperature data sets, which were documented in papers previously published, delayed to follow Karl’s June press release?

Earlier this year, Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., initiated an investigation into possible industry funding of scientists (including myself) who had recently provided Congressional testimony for the Republicans.

While potentially undisclosed industrial funding of research is a legitimate concern, climate science research funding from government is many orders of magnitude larger than industrial funding of such work.

If the House Science Committee can work to minimize the political influence on government-funded research, and also help to resolve legitimate scientific issues, it will have done both science and the policies that depend on science a big favour.

Judith Curry is professor and former chairwoman of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She is president of the Climate Forecast Applications Network

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/11/06/is-the-government-tinkering-with-global-warming-data-judith-curry/#more-18210

ristvan permalink

November 6, 2015 7:31 pm
The paper lacks integrity and Smith knows the internal emails will show this. At a minimum, Karl used colleague Huangs SST revision. That revision expressly used the method of Kennedy 2011 to find delta 0.1C. But neither Karl nor Huang gave the uncertainty in this adjustment. Kennedy’s paper did — 0.1C +/- 1.7C. That is for sure one thing NOAA is trying hide in contempt of congress.

JWood-the-other permalink

November 6, 2015 9:02 pm
“integrity of the scientific process” is not why they won’t release the information. It’s about getting caught in a conspiracy.

rah permalink

November 6, 2015 10:09 pm
The taxpayer paid for their positions and their work and the communications they carry out in doing their work. There is no concern about national security or trade secrets or problem with separation of powers in what they produce. Thus NOTHING they produced on the taxpayers dime is confidential or privileged. Further, the HR is responsible for the purse strings of the US Government. It has a Constitutional obligation to ensure it is getting quality work from the funds disbursed. There can be no legitimate legal argument for denying the HR it’s ability to ensure that public funds are being used properly. I don’t see how NOAA has a legal or ethical leg to stand on. But since this administration is lawless, as are many judges appointed over the years, I suspect that this will go to the courts.