To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (899721 ) 11/8/2015 5:32:20 PM From: one_less Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576124 Once again I did not say what you suggest I said. Thus further convincing me you are completely close minded and have no imagination when it comes to mystery. Do you agree that it would take a great force or at least an unusual one to kick off a great bang? Do you see the word "spirit" or "phantom" or "created" in that sentence. No? Good because those terms or ideas are not needed, implied, suggested, or even as you stated "ascribed". Your responses are full of cringing hesitation and avoidance, which is entirely unnecessary. The big bang is the prevailing scientific theory to explain the start of the universe. A bang to set off universal action that is. You don't have to know what caused it specifically, you don't even have to be convinced there ever was a big bang. As you have stated you are agnostic regarding the big bang which means you accept the possibility as a plausible explanation. So for any bang and especially such a big one, all I've asked you is in such a case is could you can imagine a great force or at least an unusual one being present to kick off a great bang. I could ask a group of children the same question and ask them to keep their answers non-religious so as to protect your sensitivities. I would get answers like, "Yes, it would have to be some great force," or "Yes, but it would not have to be a great force, just something to cause a disturbance that would then result in a chain reaction producing the big bang." Simple question, simple common sense answers and now after so many attempts, I have had to provide them for you. Too bad, I had hoped you could have completed that simple task on your own. It really just required a yes or no answer. In your way you've provided the "no" answer. You can't imagine a force kicking off the big bang. You are completely blocked by your fears, which have produced a close minded temperament even on questions any child could handle. tsk