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To: Asymmetric who wrote (282881)	11/15/2015 5:52:54 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541906

Mostly I agree with Noam: "The chaos and destabilization are real, but I don't think that's the aim. Rather, it is a consequence of hitting fragile systems that one does not understand with the sledgehammer that is the main tool," Translation- we're too stupid and klutzy to "nation build". Give that shit up. Stop wasting the cash and the blood. I think we'd probably all be better off absent Bush's foolish bungles in the ME. I'd like the US to follow the first rule of holes- and stop digging in the ME.

To: Asymmetric who wrote (282881)	11/15/2015 9:17:24 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 541906

Great article by Noam Chomsky. Chomsky is correct that maybe the largest fallout from the invasion of Iraq is the Wahhabization of Sunni Islam as they are frightened by the Shia. It was so predictable that when Bush pushed the Sunnie out of power and replaced them with the Shia retribution would be massive. And it has been. Retribution is a huge part of their culture. The Sunnie are quietly supporting Isis which gives them so much more power than seems on the surface by reported numbers of troops. " . One consequence of the US invasion of Iraq was to incite sectarian conflicts that are destroying Iraq and are now tearing the region to shreds. I think that Middle East correspondent Patrick Cockburn is correct in his observation that the Wahhabization of Sunni Islam is one of the most dangerous developments of the modern era. By now many of the most horrible problems look virtually insoluble, like the Syrian catastrophe, where the only slim hopes lie in some kind of negotiated settlement towards which the powers involved seem to be slowly inching.