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To: i-node who wrote (903622)	11/28/2015 11:41:41 PM
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What is Trump? This plunge comes shortly after Trump seems to have taken his hateful rhetoric to new highs. Support for Trump Plunges 12 Points: Did The Donald Finally Go Too Far? Trump has dropped in polls before only to bounce back again. slate.me

To: i-node who wrote (903622)	11/29/2015 4:35:38 PM
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Classical Liberlism...As you can see, this is nothing like today's liberalism.......Nor classical liberal republicanism exists either, a nice sounding fantasy. When was last time you saw such idealized virtues practiced in reality? When was the last time you didn't see establishment politics played? Fabulous gov't contracts interwoven with interventionist policies of post WWI & WWII, free trade a chimera going back to before turn of last century. Ignorance is no excuse, i agree.

To: i-node who wrote (903622)	11/29/2015 5:26:47 PM
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John foster & Allen Dulles, one head of State Dept the other OSS & CIA, the early Bush dynasty was tapped often financing Hitler's Germany, also in shaping the Middle East nytimes.com The Dulles brothers’ Manichaean worldview proved to be a poor tool for dealing with the complexities of the postcolonial era. Leaders like Lumumba and Mossadegh might well have been open to cooperation with the United States, seeing it as a natural ally for enemies of colonialism. However, for the Dulles brothers, and for much of the American government, threats to corporate interests were categorized as support for communism. “For us,” John Foster Dulles once explained, “there are two kinds of people in the world. There are those who are Christians and support free enterprise, and there are the others.” Eventually, the United States government tired of Allen Dulles’s schemes. President Johnson privately complained that the C.I.A. had been running “a goddamn Murder Inc. in the Caribbean,” an entirely accurate assessment — except the beneficiaries were American corporations rather than organized crime. Nowadays, the Dulles brothers have faded from America’s collective memory. The bust of John Foster, once on view at the airport west of Washington that bears his name, has been relocated to a private conference room. Outside the world of intelligence aficionados, Allen Dulles is little known. Yet both these men shaped our modern world and America’s sense of its “exceptionalism.” They should be remembered, Kinzer argues, precisely because of their failures: “They are us. We are them.”