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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (62915)	11/29/2015 5:58:04 PM
From: Paul Smith	2 Recommendations Recommended By fred woodall Honey_Bee Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 125524

that's why she leads he opponents by over 20% in most polls. Hillary's odds at of winning the nomination are about 99% - far better than Romney's odds were at this point in 2012. She is up by over 20% in "polls" because she has name recognition and there are no other realistic choices available. In 2016, the only realistic Democrat Party choice is very old, very white woman with no real accomplishments. The game has basically been pre-decided by the machine. But what's amusing is that, while the Democrat Party process is basically an orchestrated coronation, it doesn't seem to be fashionable to be pro-Hillary when talking to other people. Avoiding mentioning any support for Hillary allows a person to avoid having to actually defend her actual activities and historical views. It is much more in fashion to claim to be for Bernie, who plays the role of an ancient white male version of Elizabeth Warren and will claim to be able to give out as much free stuff as anybody could ever want. If I never saw a poll and only knew what I hear about who people claim to support, I'd assume that Bernie would win the primaries in a landslide. Everybody, including you, know that you'll be supporting Hillary and her baggage, but Bernie provides a "safe space" for Democrats to hide in during the machine's coronation process.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (62915)	11/29/2015 6:49:27 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	5 Recommendations Recommended By Alan Smithee Hank Scorpio isopatch prometheus1976 unclewest Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 125524

Your partisan attack on Democrats makes no sense That party is now owned by an evil ideology imported piecemeal from other times and places. It's been sold on the idea that some demigod and/or coterie of wise tribal chiefs can be found who will advance the human condition. That's quite contrary to all human experience. We had a best ever social order here. It's been succumbing to attack from another ancient vision for about a century. The resulting dissolution has been bumpy, uneven, not understood by huge numbers of decent and intelligent people who increasingly base voting decisions on moral intuitions rather than some grasp of history. That deficiency also applies to too many Republicans, but the moral disease is generally not as advanced in that quarter.