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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (904996)	12/3/2015 11:55:34 PM
From: Sdgla	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Respond to of 1573975

Tamino wordpress.. Seal levels rising .. Man made. Time to call

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (904996)	12/4/2015 7:03:48 AM
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Greater flooding in Miami is because of climate change. That’s a fact. Its a fact in the Church of Global Warming....To us rational folks, its just more of your faith based belief system....

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (904996)	12/4/2015 8:48:08 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573975

Yeah, well we know you're a Stalinist who'd love to send conservatives off to gulags.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (904996)

12/4/2015 8:58:53 AM

From: Brumar89

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Climate scientists say nuclear energy is the answer

Greens say we should listen to James Hansen, Kerry Emanuel, Tom Wigley, etc who wrote the Guardian oped piece referenced below. So how come they won't listen to them when they say we need nuclear power? The four scientists say if you're not pro-nuclear power, you're against the world meeting the "climate targets" they've set.

What's wrong here? Here's a power source that emits no methane or carbon. But greens aren't really scientific, they're driven by primitive religious urges to wage war against "uncleanness" and to them wind and solar are "clean" (even though they're not really clean) and coal, oil, and nuclear are "unclean."

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/03/nuclear-power-paves-the-only-viable-path-forward-on-climate-change?CMP=share_btn_tw

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (904996)	12/4/2015 9:01:40 AM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573975

Killer solar In California, where solar panels have been embraced enthusiastically, there has been a rash of deaths like this one, this one, and another three in quick succession. However, it is a worldwide phenomenon, so much so that statistics show roofing is more dangerous than coal mining. Because of our propensity to put panels on roofs, solar is in fact, far more dangerous than many forms of power generation, three times more dangerous than wind power and more than 10 times more dangerous than nuclear power, by comparison to the amount of power produced. The fifty actual deaths from roof installation accidents for 1.5 million roof installations is equal to the actual deaths experienced so far from Chernobyl. If all 80 million residential roofs in the USA had solar power installed then one would expect 9 times the annual roofing deaths of 300 people or 2700 people (roofers to die). This would generate about 240 TWh of power each year. (30% of the power generated from nuclear power in the USA). 90 people per year over an optimistic life of 30 years for the panels not including maintenance or any electrical shock incidents. http://asiancorrespondent.com/2011/05/green-deaths-the-forgotten-dangers-of-solar-panels/ ...... But installing solar panels combines three of the most injury-prone jobs — roofing, carpentry and electrical work — making it particularly risky, safety experts say. At the same time, there are no federal or California workplace safety rules — and few, if any, rules in other states — that specifically apply to solar installers. As a result, companies deal with a hodgepodge of regulations. No one keeps comprehensive figures on injuries or deaths in the the solar installation industry. However, California health authorities have investigated three workplace deaths in the industry in slightly over two years. ........ A passion for alternative energy drove Petersen, a graduate of Oberlin College and a one-time seminary student, to find work as a solar installer. “He cared about his job, he cared about his friends, about the impact he was having, about the craft,” the co-worker said. Petersen’s father, Glen, a Lutheran pastor, said his son loved to work with his hands and left the seminary to pursue carpentry and then solar work after a stressful summer of pastoral work at a Houston hospital. Petersen had been working for SolarCity for about six months when he died. The elder Petersen said the family would wait for the full accident report from Cal/OSHA before deciding whether to sue the company, though he said the family was unlikely to take legal action. http://solarknowledge.blogspot.com/2010/10/solar-installers-death-points-to-job.html And the above just looks at the installation of solar panels. If we looked at the pollution in Asia from mining the minerals used and from manufacturing the panels, the death toll would be even higher.