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To: bentway who wrote (284669)12/4/2015 10:10:22 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541920
 
The point I am failing to make, miserably, is that there is a difference between believing and knowing and doubt.

And that believing is not based on knowing (for sure), IMO. That is the premise of my argument. It is a state of mind at any given moment.

I can believe something, and not be in doubt about it, but also be wrong. Which is what I think most atheists are.

E.g. I believe my daughter is my daughter. I have no doubt about it, but I could be wrong. I see it as a state of mind at the present. If my ex says she is not my daughter that would put me in a state of "doubt". And further to that, if she got a DNA test and it said she was not daughter then that would change my mind again and I would no longer believe she is my daughter.

Each step changed my mind. First I went into a state of doubt, and then when I saw the DNA test I changed my mind again and no longer believed she is my daughter.

Many people are in a true state of doubt about religion. Those people I call agnostics, but most atheists are not in a state of doubt (any state of mind is sort of amorphous) . Many people are questioning religion. Most atheists do not question religion. They just do not believe in it. They are not in a state of doubt, but I am sure would readily admit they may be wrong.

Which was Charles Pierce's argument. It is just a matter of semantics and in a sense means nothing -lol.

And please forgive me for my verbosity.