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To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15527)	12/24/1997 10:56:00 AM
From: Michael Do	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

Message from Reginald Middleton on Dec 24 1997 8:15AM EST > Yes it does. If they are truly tying the products, they are >going too far. If they are > increasing the utility of the product they are obeying economic >demand. Would you > be pissed off if you had to go to the store and by a seprate >winsock to get on the > net, but you would not be able to see anything because you >forgot to buy your new > video drivers for your screen. Once you got your video working, >you tried to print > my phenominal posts from SI to find oput you had to go by some >special drivers for > printing. The delivery of a whole product that is easy to use >eliminates that type of > customer regret. Will it be OK if MS includes Office Pro, Money, C++,etc.... into the Windows 95 as part of the OS and force all the OEM to take it as it is . Mike

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15527)	12/24/1997 11:39:00 AM
From: Schiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Actually, the DOJ made a horrible case According to ms press releases? I am not going to post links, for the details of the case are well documented and quite easy to find. Quite easy to find opinionated press releases. Would you be pissed off if you had to go to the store and by a seprate winsock to get on the net, but you would not be able to see anything because you forgot to buy your new video drivers for your screen. Once you got your video working, you tried to print my phenominal posts from SI to find oput you had to go by some special drivers for printing. The delivery of a whole product that is easy to use eliminates that type of customer regret. You can't compare video drivers and printer drivers to a web browser, that is insane. When you buy a printer or a video card, they come with all the required drivers. Some of the more popular ones are supplied with windows. I still say that it doesn't matter how deeply integrated ie is with windows. The deeper the integration , the harder it will be for ms to separate the two. The question is not if they mixed some code together with ie but if the functions of a web browser are part of the os.

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15527)	12/24/1997 12:48:00 PM
From: Keith Hankin	Respond to of 24154

>>> If they are truly tying the products, they are going too far. If they are increasing the utility of the product they are obeying economic demand. Oh puleeze! The way MSFT interprets it (and it sounds like the way you do) is that they can do whatever they want -- tie, integrate, whatever you want to call it, it is really the same thing in the computer industry. When does something become a tie versus "increasing the utility of the product"? Isn't providing a word processor bundled with the OS "increasing the utility of the product"? Or would that be considered as tying?