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To: HerbVic who wrote (186642)	12/22/2015 1:17:06 AM
From: MGV	5 Recommendations Recommended By charlyfi CHRIS LINELL david1951 HerbVic OrionX Respond to of 213177

Exactly right. Their business model is predicated on stoking volatility. The more vol., the more they can make taking the other side of the vol trade. On the way up, they trade against greed. On the way down, they trade against fear. The sell side facilitates the vol. in exchange for order flow to their trading groups. The sell side offers notes that are internally inconsistent, stoking short term fear while maintaining longer term price targets. There is no accountability for being "wrong" on the short term calls because to their constituents, the objective isn't being "right", it is stoking volatility. With high speed algorithm trading and the internet to more broadly disseminate fear, volatility has never been more lucrative for the institutional trading entities. Add in the SEC impotence, paving the way for regulatory open fields (think repeal of the positive uptick rule as one example), and the individual has no chance unless he/she chooses not to play by the institutional trading rules. Be circumspect in the use of leverage. Minimize trading. Know what you own.

To: HerbVic who wrote (186642)	12/22/2015 3:12:05 PM
From: engineer	11 Recommendations Recommended By AJ Muckenfus CHRIS LINELL HerbVic Jack Jackson JP Sullivan and 6 more members Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213177

I still favor a HUGE change in investing rules in this country. The hedge fund types who trade every few minutes (or milliseconds) are not about building a business or building the company, they are all about just plain extracting money from the shares in any way possible. If we plan on having true value in our companies and allowing them to build and invest to grow and build their business, it is not having to answer to rumor controlled short term traders who ONLY consider what the next EPS or guidance is all about. I suggest that we severely change the tax policy around how to create VALUE in stocks again based upon a long term investment and growth outlook and not about what they said this last 30 seconds at some conference. Suggest 90% tax on any trade held less than 1 hour. 75% on less than 1 day (24 hours) 50% less than a week 40% less than a month 25% less than a year (Capital gains type investing) 10% up to 5 years ( Company backer) 5% more than 5 years.(company builder) This way we will invest for the right reasons, which is to invest in a company who creates VALUE and PRODUCTS and not to speculate on some balloon hype fest to get a huge valuation bubble, only to go bankrupt a couple of months later when all the short term hypesters have bailed out of it.