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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (910788)12/25/2015 5:09:10 PM
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A qadi, a religious judge, isn't a secular personage anymore than the King of Saudi Arabia. Averroes was a high level judge of sharia law in a state just as theocratic as Saudi Arabia. Arguably more so, since Muslim Spain was ruled by a caliph and was almost constantly at war with Christian kingdoms.

Here's an ibn Rushd (Averroes) quote for you: “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.”

Your secular humanist philosopher believed in jihad against non-believers and he served in a theocratic state engaged in jihad.

Averroes & other thinkers were secular because they embraced natural sciences,humanist philosophy. Your secular qadi wasn't secular at all. There's not necessarily any barrier between religion and the natural sciences. At one time, almost all western scientists were religious. Take Isaac Newton as an example. He wrote more on religious related subjects than on physics and the natural sciences.

Doesn't get more secular than this:
" Averroes had a greater impact on Christian Europe: he has been
described as the "founding father of secular thought in Western
Europe"
by people who don't know any better.

There. I fixed that for you.

You could just as easily claim Syed Farook was secular. After all, he was college educated in the US, majored in a scientific field, and worked in a field related to his scientific training. He clearly embraced science.