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To: DaYooper who wrote (24153)12/29/2015 2:24:44 PM
From: JimisJim  Respond to of 34328
 
Not sure your question actually asks what you meant to ask... there are no tax considerations if an MLP has gains above some cap -- you do have to worry about cap gains/recapture stuff with the IRS when/if you sell MLPs in a ROTH or regular IRA, but it all depends on your purchase price, how long you've owned it in a retirement acct. The longer, the more distributions and the lower your cost basis -- own one long enough without adding to it and your cost basis eventually goes to zero because part of every distribution is a return of capitol (ROC). When you sell out of an MLP, you have to calculate how much was ROC vs. not and then you pay cap gains (which is usually lower for most people) on that part and you pay income tax (at your marginal rate) on the rest.

Now, I suspect though, that you meant to ask about the $1,000 UBTI issue for MLPs in an IRA or similar... the short answer is there is no rule of thumb as to how much (how many shares/units) owned will trigger the taxes on UBTI in excess of $1,000 per year total (sum of ALL your UBTI from ALL of the MLPs across ALL of your accts.).. in my experience, the MLPs I've owned have either had negative UBTI or very very small UBTI -- if I'd had them in an IRA (and I did some years ago prior to wising up)... at one point I had 6 or 8 MLPs all in the $10K to $20K range and never came close to the limit... I think the highest my combined UBTI from all sources never rose above $300/yr... each MLP is very different in their UBTI considerations AND every year is different from the last one, so one would have to look at each one on a case by case basis to estimate what level of investment would trigger an IRS tax if held inside an IRA or such and also to get a feel for how an individual MLP deals with/generates any UBTI... I would start by contacting the MLPs themselves and asking them.