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To: Spekulatius who wrote (56458)12/30/2015 12:36:27 AM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris1 Recommendation

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One of the risks with o&g bonds is that the company does institutional tender replacing current bonds with secureds. On the positive side, this lowers the debt outstanding and possibly interest cost, since usually they tender below par (although at higher interest rate). On the negative side, if the company goes BK, non-secured bond holders are now behind secureds in recovery...

Both CHK and DNR did these. In both cases the tenders were for institutional holders only, so no chance for small investors to tender. AFAIK secured's are not trading or at least not available (yet?).

In other news SFY now has 2 days left until default... I wonder if they pull out a secured recap at the last moment too...

Anyway. ATW bonds may work out. Currently my benchmark to compare against is X bonds - does the company look like they have a better financial position than X? Is the yield comparable/better than X's (~26% YTM for 2018's).

Take care.



To: Spekulatius who wrote (56458)1/13/2016 11:10:43 AM
From: mopgcw  Respond to of 78711
 
ATW bonds falling like a rock, looks like I bought both chunks too early it would seem. Still falling like a knife here, but they announce they are going to make $1 this Q, still can cut the divvy, blackrock buys a chunk of the equity, and debt is roughly 35%...one of the best managed firms in the space, with high-spec rigs. What are we missing?