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To: JimisJim who wrote (194286)1/5/2016 10:54:38 PM
From: Elroy Jetson1 Recommendation

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It the lagoon water is as saline as the 1972 readings the report references, you have to wonder why San Diego has always claimed it's less expensive to use brackish lagoon water as an RO input than sea water. But this is same water district which expected MWD to transport their water from the Colorado River to San Diego for free. So consider the source.

As might be expected from the minor and seasonal fresh water input, the salinity of the lagoon waters is generally similar to that of the adjacent ocean water. In a salinity study carried out August 21-24, o 1972, salinities varied from a minimum of 32.45 /00 (parts per thousand) to a maximum of 34.70%. During the same period the salinity of o the adjacent ocean water (Scripps Institution Pier) ranged from 33.54 /00 to 33.84 /00. The dominant processes affecting the salinity are the addition of fresh water and avaporation. The minimum salinity noted (32.450/00) was found in the extreme southern portion of the outer lagoon near the slight freshwater drainage from the San Diego Gas and Electric facility. Elsewhere salinity values were either similar to those of the open ocean or slightly higher. The highest open water salinity (34.700/00) was recorded in the extreme eastern portion of the inner lagoon where the greatest amount of evaporation occurs.
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I've been subjected to hours of PowerPoint presentations by one of the MWD Board Directors as part of a three day tour of the MWD facilities from Arizona back to Los Angeles. The history of merit-less lawsuits which San Diego has brought against MWD and lost is incredible. The basic rub is San Diego joined MWD just after WW-II, decades after all facilities were built-out and they joined without making a capital contribution. Yet San Diego has continued to expect the same benefits as the municipalities which are shareholders.

As San Diego grew, their allocation of MWD water was no longer sufficient, even as Los Angeles and other MWD members reduced their consumption as their populations grew. As a result San Diego has needed to resort to ever more costly water sources, like putting farmers out of business and processing salt water, to meet their needs and they've have become very litigious in the process.



To: JimisJim who wrote (194286)1/5/2016 11:46:41 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Respond to of 206323
 
Our MWD tour guide Ed Little died one year after our tour in 2013. He was beloved at MWD. - patch.com

Although Ed Little was a very nice Republican businessman, while we played cards one evening the San Diego water district was virtually all he talked about - and with total disgust. Ed Little was very entertaining and could have schooled Bearcat Bob about the foolishness of his mistaken water management schemes.

Ed Little ran his own business, Ed Little Auto Service in Culver City which his family continues to operate, in addition to being an elected Commissioner of the Metropolitan Water District since 1954, and later the MWD Board President for a quite a while.

West Basin Mourns the Loss of Past Board Member Edward C. Little
Twice elected as board president, Little was 87 years old.



West Basin Municipal Water District (West Basin) was informed over the weekend of the passing of one of its most visionary Board members, Edward C. Little, on Saturday, Aug. 16, 2014. One of Little’s most noteworthy achievements was his Board leadership in diversifying West Basin’s water portfolio following the Southern California drought in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Little, more commonly known as “Ed,” led the Board effort to begin both wastewater recycling and water conservation as additional sources of locally-controlled water.

“We are extremely thankful for Ed Little’s dedication, vision and leadership in the water community and at West Basin. He was a true friend and will be greatly missed. His contributions to Southern California’s water reliability through West Basin and Metropolitan Water District of Southern California (MWD) will live on for decades and decades to come,” said Donald L. Dear, President of the West Basin Board of Directors.

Recognizing his efforts, the West Basin Board of Directors in 2007 renamed its water recycling facility the Edward C. Little Water Recycling Facility in honor of his dedication to West Basin and its constituents. The facility is the largest of its kind in the world and is one of six recycling centers in the world designated by the National Water Research Institute as a National Center for Water Treatment Technologies.

Little’s long-term vision has also contributed to the research and development of ocean-water desalination through the operation of a pilot plant in El Segundo and a full-scale Temporary Desalination Demonstration facility in Redondo Beach, Calif.

Little’s involvement in water began in 1954 working on the election to annex Culver City to West Basin and in the 1960s serving on the County Water Resources and Reclamation Advisory Commission with two other water industry icons, Joe Jensen and William Farquhar.

Ed Little was appointed to the West Basin Board of Directors in 1989 and retired just prior to completing his fifth term of office. He represented Division IV which includes the cities of Culver City, El Segundo, Malibu, West Hollywood and the unincorporated areas of Lennox, North Ladera Heights, Del Aire, Topanga, View Park and Windsor Hills.

Little also served as one of West Basin’s representatives to the MWD Board of Directors for 14 years. During his MWD tenure the agency developed and constructed some of the most historic water projects in Southern California including the Diamond Valley Lake reservoir, the Inland Feeder Project and the Quantification Settlement on the Colorado River.

Little owned and operated the Ed Little Auto Service in Culver City since 1951, which is still in operation today. In 1992, the Ed Little Auto Service was recognized by the Culver City Chamber of Commerce as one of the three outstanding businesses in Culver City. He was also a former Culver City councilman. Little was a native of Los Angeles and served in the Navy during World War II. After the war, he attended the University of Southern California and graduated in 1950 with a Bachelor of Science degree in Industrial Management.

Little was twice elected Board President. Little is survived by this wife Helen and children Bob, Linda, Patti and Cassandra, and his brother Bob.



To: JimisJim who wrote (194286)1/6/2016 12:10:26 PM
From: Eric2 Recommendations

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JimisJim

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OT

I agree.

Ridiculous to discuss this any longer.

I've gone thru two generations of RO systems on my sailboat over twenty plus years. Need it for when I'm out on the open ocean away from land.

Good Ol ordinary seawater is easy to RO, very little pre filtering needed.

I don't even want to think about trying to RO runoff from streets.

A giant chemical cocktail!