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To: Sam who wrote (287845)1/10/2016 3:07:18 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542214
 
I was watching Fareed Zakaria this morning holding a smart Roundtable talking about Saudi Arabia and Iran. So my take away is that the Iranian Shia were pretty well isolated surrounded, for much of the last century, by a sea of Sunni tribes, and power. Saddam was Sunni. Fought a huge war with Iran.

And then Bush went in and disbanded the Sunni Army and replaced it with a Shia army that immediately started punishing the Sunni tribes years of their torture. Why couldn't anyone see that was gonna happen? That's like looking at a tree in terms of the complexity.

All of this should have been easy for either Bush or Obama to see, that Malaki was going to do everything in his power to secure Shia dominance and control of Iraq. The Shia are 60% of the population and they had been ruled for years by 20% of the Sunni. So there was never going to be any cooperation. But for years both Bush and Obama didn't seem to recognize that. And of course the Kurds were up in the north just trying to establish their own country and paying attention only to the South when it involves interest to them.

The Kurds have been on their own trip securing their country. While the rest of the Middle East is embroiled in a Shia/Sunni Civil War. Now that Iraq, which is a big strong country, has joined Iran, the Shia have a powerhouse situation in the Middle East and for the first time threatening the Sunnis in every direction.

The Isis thing is actually sort of weird to me given the context of the actual Civil War.

What I can't figure out is that the Bushes are really tight with the Saudi's. I can't figure out why the Saudi's let Bush go into Iraq and disband the Sunni Army, that was sort of a support for the Saudi's and replace them with Shia that are Saudi's adversaries. And they should have known would join with Iran.

That makes no sense to me. I'd sure like to know the back story on that one.



To: Sam who wrote (287845)1/10/2016 5:17:06 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 542214
 
Ken Pollack essay printed in Foreign Policy

Fear and Loathing in Saudi Arabia
By Kenneth M. Pollack
January 7, 2016


Terrific. Thanks for posting it.