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To: neolib who wrote (288969)1/23/2016 1:33:46 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 542139
 
I don't think so. Our winner-take-all system heavily stacks the deck against all third party candidacies. It isn't the candidate--it is the system. There is too much party identification and loyalty and the argument that "You'll throw your vote away if you vote for xxx" becomes very powerful. I think that the only thing that historically has overcome that is the racism of the South, where occasionally third party candidates held their own against the established parties. But that is because the people who voted for the third party candidate (e.g., Wallace or Thurmond) actually identified with the Klan more than the Democratic party.

Perot was a special case. However, while Bloomberg would make a far better candidate than Perot did, but he still wouldn't win the election without party support. He would just be a spoiler.

We need to have proportional voting. And a true "one person, one vote" system. But I don't think the Rs would allow it.



To: neolib who wrote (288969)1/23/2016 5:01:57 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 542139
 
Well if it is Trump or Cruz vs Bernie, I'd say Bloomberg up the middle has a great shot at it.

Don't think so, assuming Bloomberg would actually want to get elected. If he only wished to make some sort of statement, then he could get enough votes to do that. If Clinton were the Dem nominee, it looks as if that would elect Trump; if it were Sanders, very hard to say what would happen. Most likely, again, elect Trump.