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Strategies & Market Trends : APMP (formerly APM) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: AlienTech who wrote (9490)12/26/1997 1:26:00 PM
From: LK2  Respond to of 13456
 
>>Naw, this is one manipulated stock.. But that will only last just so long.<< And if the stock 'manipulation' ends, then what? The stock will trade at its intrinsic value?
Intrinsic value is a funny thing, because it really means different things to different people, in spite of the idea that intrinsic value is supposed to be the 'fundamental valuation' of a company's stock.

Personally, I'm more inclined to agree with Troy, when he says, >>Bottom line, IMO: should it see $10 or less or $8 or less, who knows or cares; could it see less than $10 or even $8 - absolutely.<<

The problems in the disk drive sector aren't over yet. It's a question of how long those problems last. And also, how well APM makes the transition to MR. They currently have little or no contracts for MR. So once the June 98 quarter is finished, and WDC has finished their TFI purchases from APM, what is APM going to be selling? And to whom?

-LK



To: AlienTech who wrote (9490)12/26/1997 2:56:00 PM
From: WTMHouston  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13456
 
<< I think anyone investing in APM at these levels will be very happy in a few years.>>

I generally agree with you, so long as they generate business from the MR transition and get moving on GMR in a serius way. The question is how much more short term loss there will be before it makes the turnaround. Because of this, many people may wait to see a reversal confirmed rather than try to guess the bottom, which may still have 30-40% exposure. I also agree that a reoragnization would be welcome news: but, this company hasn't generally released welcome news when it is needed most.

<< this is one manipulated stock.. But that will only last just so long.>>

I also generally agree. However irrational it is for there to be a
40%+ short interest, it is, nonetheless, reality. If they make the MR/GMR transition sucessfully, you could see one heck of a short squeeze. Even if most of the short interest is against the box, it makes more sense in my opinion to hold puts or sell calls at this level than remain short...selling calls makes particular sense if you think that it will languish around its present level for 6+ months...

With IBM already out with GMR, however, I am not so sure that pricing pressures are going to subside anytime in the next year. Even if it make the transition, margin pressure still remains to be addressed.

BTW, I don't think you were hyping anything. Sometimes, the best long term buys are when things look the worst -- and APM definately looks pretty bad -- and the contrarian voice turns out to be the true voice of reason....

Troy



To: AlienTech who wrote (9490)12/27/1997 6:40:00 AM
From: Jonathan Bird  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13456
 
Hyping?
What ever makes you say that!


The part where you mistate the cash by 87.7 mil and exagerate the true book value by 70+ mil. And if I didn't like you style so much then i'd correct everything else you just said about APM. Instead I'll just suggest that you get current on APM via the 10-K, then find a sucker to buy your APM ASAP. :) In fact, you should sell someone elses APM too.

Jon Bird