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Non-Tech : Any info about Iomega (IOM)? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (41572)	12/27/1997 1:25:00 PM
From: Brendan2012	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 58324

>>The article closes by saying that the new Laptop ZIP drives have been modified and don't accept clone disks.<< I guess you didn't notice this, huh Rocky? Iomega can alter the drives to stop any cloners. Who's going to buy these disks that aren't even compatible with all Zip drives? I know I wouldn't Brendan

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (41572)	12/27/1997 2:56:00 PM
From: FuzzFace	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 58324

<You can be sure that Ampex, Maxell, TDK, and a host of other media makers...> The big boys have reputations to protect, unlike Nomai. Knowing how incompatible their disks would be, they won't risk having their names associated with it. The real risk is that Nomai pursues this in spite of the fact they know their disks won't work in laptop Zips, and future Zip models. The purpose? Getting bought out by IOM, or getting a legit license deal. The strategy? Crank out Zip clones without regard to quality or compatibility. When the average consumer finds out, it will be too late. They will be mighty PO'd and the whole thing will tarnish IOM's reputation by muddying the waters. People will be confused and afraid to buy a Zip. Nomai is playing a dirty and dangerous game. IOM must protect their product by invoking the retroreflector patent as proof that cheap knockoff disks can't possibly work in all Zips. If they point out that partially functioning clones will damage Zip's reputation, they ought to get relief. If Nomai goes ahead anyway, monetary damages can be sought. Thus the game hasn't really begun. I just wish this whole process could be accelerated so that the parasites (Nomai, not you Rocky) would have no effect on the stock price.

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (41572)	12/27/1997 4:26:00 PM
From: Brent D. Beal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 58324

I thought the Zip was going to go out of style as soon as DVD hit (actually, just insert anything, DVD is just the latest thing)? Why would all these large, successful companies want to waste their time on a product that's going to obsolete in matter of months. . .? Rocky, you've got me really confused now. . .

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (41572)	12/27/1997 7:52:00 PM
From: John P. Henrie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 58324

RE: Rocky -- the dam is breaking a part? Rocky, once again you share your opinion in an area you have little understanding. Your posts regarding Nomai are similar to the previous bear "Iomaniacs" posts regarding rebates. I remember these individuals declared that the rebates were the beginning of the end . They were stating that rebates were an obvious sign of slowing demand and would result in declining margins. Guess what, neither has happened. How could they have been so wrong? Simple... they had no understanding of Iomega's business plan. Now its Nomai. You think the battle is over and Nomai is the victor. I am enjoying your posts as much as I did the rebate posts. Why? You have as much understanding of the zip disk patent issues as the rebate posters had about Iomega's business plan. Nomai's chance of ever bringing zip disk clones to market in any signficant quantities is slim to none. Go ahead, post all you want as long as you want (the patent thing will go for some time). It won't make you right and it won't change the outcome. As always, regards.... John .

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (41572)	12/28/1997 1:40:00 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 58324

>>All of this because of Iomega management's poor patent filings, and shoddy disc rejection features.<< Rocky - Have you ever applied for a patent? I have. It's not a simple process, and one can't just decide to make whatever claims one wishes to make in the application. It's not like copyrighting something. So to claim that Iomega's management was lax in this regard is, in a word, stupid. Nomai has succeeded in making clone disks which work in most Zip drives, but they have not succeeded in matching the quality levels of real Zip disks. If the difference in price between Nomai disks and Iomega disks is only 20%, I can't see Nomai getting 10% of the market. Will other companies enter the clone disk market as well? I believe they will only do so if Nomai can generate some meaningful sales figures. I don't think they will. - Allen