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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Rocky Mountain Int'l (OTC:RMIL former OTC:OVIS) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Pugs who wrote (30792)	12/28/1997 12:38:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55532

Pugs, If what you say is true about Smartin and Kugler, then one lesson you should take from this is "don't be on the opposite side of them".... :0) The Yeas have lost many people a lot of money in this stock regardless of the current trading halt. All of those who bought at more that $1 1/4 were in the red the day the stock halted and we know this puppy was as high as $4. Oh the other hand the Nays have accurately predicted that this company was a candidate for a trading halt, with the implied uncertainties for future existence or stock trading that are implied. To be a Raging Bull, you better make sure your Sht doesn't stink because it is easier to tear something down than build it up, that we all know. When Whiners* such as "shades" graduate to the big leagues and have to deal with outright legitimate short-selling in the stocks that they hold, they will know better than to blame those who bring legitimate derogatory information to the public eye. They will thank them for alerting them to the warning signs. That is, if they are smart. Regards, Ron

To: Pugs who wrote (30792)	12/28/1997 12:40:00 PM
From: Riley G	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 55532

>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:53:26, -0500 >Subject: input! > >I am completely amazed and befuddled as to why the nays are still >trying to get the longs to sell at the open, it looks like >desperation to me, if it is all over why don't they just take a walk >and let things take their course; but for some reason it appears >very important to them that they convince us to sell at the open. I >ask myself why, to drive the stock to zero, why zero, who gains if it >goes to zero, nays? Could it possibly be the short holders or am I >missing something? If it is all over go home, you have won and we >have lost. But I would bet my LIFE, that you will not go away and >let us mourn our loses, the nays not leaving us alone really has me >thinking, why are they still here, is there a lot more to this saga, >maybe we still have life, lots of life left, or they would be gone, >even if it wasn't the holiday season. I plan to hold on with 40,000 >shares, what have I got to loose, the nays say it is all over, so >according to them I stand to loose nothing further, so hold and >possibly buy more if the price drops to where the nays predict. Have >a prosperous and healthy holiday.

To: Pugs who wrote (30792)	12/28/1997 12:48:00 PM
From: Riley G	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55532

Subject: fwd message Riley, Its do or die time. The reason I bought this stock in the first place was because of the people in it. At the time I bought this stock I read every post on OVIS. Liked the concept of the squeeze, but mostly the people fighting for it. When I first bought the stock I told my broker what was happening here. And the first question he asked was how low will the MMs drive it down. Will they drive it back down to 0.20 again. I didn't know the answer but was willing to give it a try. I've seen the stock price all over the place. I've seen false news releases and more BS than ever before. And still people held on. When the press release came out about the OVIS name being taken over. And SI was down the next day...... I thought for sure people would panic sell. But when SI came back on line the same knuckle-heads ( I use that as a term of endearment ) were still here. My first thought was ..... these f******** just plain won't sell. So now we sit & wait. I not going anywhere, & I won't sell. I came to roll the dice & did. Once you throw them..... you can't take em back. You just have to see what you've rolled. Good or bad.

To: Pugs who wrote (30792)	12/28/1997 8:03:00 PM
From: (Bob) Zumbrunnen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55532

Pugs, humor those of us who are into logic: What point is it you are trying to make? A. If Kugler and Martin don't like a stock, it's a good stock? B. Kugler and Martin are the cause of RMIL's woes? C. Kugler and Martin are vile creatures who take pleasure in questioning fine, upstanding companies? A. So far, it appears that every stock one or both of them warned about tanked afterwards. Even if you find a case where they made the wrong call, they'll have been correct the majority of the time. B. Actually, RMIL is the cause of RMIL's woes. Don't you agree? C. They may or may not be vile creatures, but if they are, they're vile creatures who should be listened to. Even if you'll eventually dismiss what they say, you'd do well to at least listen and consider the possibility they may be right. Anyone who only listens to the positives and ignores the negatives, or just listens to those who spew their opinion the most frequently, will eventually part with a lot of money. You really should go read the HCCA thread. That's what this one is turning into. Oh, and it's another fine upstanding company. Plenty of yeas with over-optimistic predictions, a handful of nays who questioned fundamentals when the company was at 20 cents, a handful of yeas who chose to slam the nays, an idiot who dredged up every out-of-context thing he could from every other thread any nay had been in, and, most importantly, strong tendencies to discuss the individuals posting rather than anything having to do with the company. I was an idiot for having bailed out of HCCA at 17 cents ("what kind of idiot sells at the all-time low?"). Never mind that you can now buy it for less than half a cent per share... Actually, it was idiotic of me to buy in the first place. I bought because of the hype. I think anyone who has survived long enough to become a seasoned investor has learned that particular lesson the hard way. One last thing, Pugs. You keep claiming that the nays won't answer questions, only to get answers. What about the yeas? Here are a few questions I'd like to ask (keeping in mind that, though I'm pessimistic about the future for this one, I'm still a prospective shareholder): 1. If the short position doesn't exist (it may, but it hasn't been proven), what should this company be worth? If it makes it easier, assume the $5M is in the bank and that the additional $5M will be loaned. 2. Has this company lied to the shareholders? 3. Why did the SEC halt trading? 4. What kind of earnings do you think will show up in the financials? Per share.... 5. Barring a short squeeze, is there any other reason to buy this stock at anything over $1.00? I'm asking you these questions specifically, Pugs, because though I (and I'm sure others) am trying to learn about this company to try to decide whether to take a position when/if it re-opens, you've been the most guilty of clogging the thread with a bunch of stuff that just gets in the way of the discovery process.