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To: greg nus who wrote (27217)12/28/1997 5:39:00 PM
From: Buckwheat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573921
 
Greg, I think you have hit on a key item in brand recognition. Saw a lot of machines Christmas (Intel, AMD, Cyrix, and the like). I must admit that Intel does a better job of ensuring that the Intel Inside logo gets on all their machines; however, I did not see a single machine that didn't have a WIN 9X compatable or designed for WIN 9X logo attached. The business of IBM or Intel compatability is becoming a non-issue. Probably the biggest and most over-looked factor is that of MSFT. MSFT is in the business of selling OSs and mainstream applications and cannot continue to grow off upgrades. It's not in MSFT's best interest for anyone (CPU maker) to go broke or to get a decisive advantage over the other. What you've seen in CPU pricing over the past 6 months has been a boon to MSFT and I'm sure Bill quickly took notice of this (maybe even played a part in it). These delays in MSFT's release of OSs and apps are not related to fine tuning and bug erradication, they're adding more last minute hooks for all hardware makers. It's in MSFTs best interest to provide hooks for all and further promote competition. (ex: 3D and MMX features being implemented by all .... Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IDT) I don't think MSFT will allow any hardware maker to ever again stagnate the computer industry growth (and MSFT's profits) with proprietary designs. MSFT has recently pursued getting in everyone's TV and other appliances; however, it would be foolish to think they have given up on the 60% or better of the population that still doesn't have a PC. Now the question is... which CPU makers recognize: where the market really is; who can really influence the market for the next few years; and which companies are best poised to take advantage of this?

Buckwheat



To: greg nus who wrote (27217)12/28/1997 8:10:00 PM
From: Joey Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573921
 
greg, re:You know for the
billions Intel spent on the "Intel Inside product brand recognition campaign it doesn't
seem to make a difference. Consummers know when they spot a bargain.

WRONG!!!!
i used to enjoy reading your posts, but now you're really starting to sling the BS...it's getting embarrasingly obvious.

joey



To: greg nus who wrote (27217)12/28/1997 9:01:00 PM
From: StockMan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573921
 
Nusance,
Re -- "Intel Inside product brand recognition campaign it doesn't seem to make a difference.

You still haven't answered my question about what AMD is doing with those 166 and 200 which they can't sell. Their yields are still lower than last Q given that they now only have the 233's.

I looked at the Future Shop K6-233 compaq systems. Not a SINGLE one was sold the past 4 days. They still have 3 boxes under the display table.

Stockman