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To: bentway who wrote (929559)	4/8/2016 10:41:05 AM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577858

Water heaters with tanks are energy wasters. Not too concerned about the energy wasting, more about lifestyle and comfort - but of course would prefer the least expensive to run over time. I did use your link as a starting point to find they make a bigger 27KW version. Unfortunately my water heater was leaking all over the floor and I have a house full of woman - so I picked up and installed a 50 gallon tank style yesterday. It only came with a 6 year warranty so I suspect it'll last less than 10 years. All the tank less models I'd seen in the past have been gas - which is not an option for me. I think the biggest issue with the larger electric ones is they use 3x40amp connections and the old heater is a single 40amp. So this would involve trying to add two more 6 gauge runs to the panel - that'll be somewhat expensive due to current location. The 13KW uses a single 60amp connection - so that would just be a breaker swap. Something to keep in mind and hopefully in 10 years they'll have even better models to choose from. Thanks for the link.

To: bentway who wrote (929559)	4/8/2016 4:57:57 PM
From: d[-_-]b	1 Recommendation Recommended By Stock Puppy Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577858

Spoke to a friend that has one of these tank less heaters - says it has an issue that cost more money to correct. Apparently with a standard tank it semi-heats water in the line to your faucets so it minimizes the time to get hot water. Since my heater is on the ground floor (like most) warm water migrates up the pipes while cool flows back into the tank, keeping the water column warmer. With tank less the water in the pipes cools down completely during long nonuse times and it takes much longer to get hot depending on run length. So he had to install a recirculating pump to keep water in the line hot - basically turning his pipes into a tank. Seems rather inefficient and uninsulated (but that's how it normally works) - will have to check in with the plumbers at Keller to see what they have learned with tank less systems.