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To: jlallen who wrote (930014)	4/11/2016 5:02:13 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577920

Wrong, at the time militia meant the state militia as each state considered itself similar to an independent country...... During the Revolution, did you ever hear of any Pennsylvanian fighting for New Hampshire???

To: jlallen who wrote (930014)	4/28/2016 5:13:35 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1577920

Not just that but also while the amendment mentions militias (apparently as a justification for the recognition of the personal right), it doesn't say anything about the rights of militia, but rather the rights of the people. If the right of the people were some sort of "collective right" available only to organizations controlled by the government then the government could say that the right of the people " peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" was only available to government sponsored collectives. You would also have no right against unreasonable search and seizure except as part of some government/collective body - "Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."