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To: Brumar89 who wrote (930591)4/15/2016 1:42:22 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578138
 
WSJ Confirms Collusion Behind #ExxonKnew
Anthony Watts / 2 days ago April 13, 2016

Bill McKibben, others, at secret meeting



[ Bet he filled his tank BEFORE he "closed" it for lesser benighted mortals. ]

Excerpt:

A key meeting in the new push unfolded in January behind the closed doors of a Manhattan office building.

The session brought together about a dozen people, including Kenny Bruno, a veteran of environmental campaigns, and Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org, two activists who helped lead the successful fight to block the Keystone XL pipeline. The new campaign’s goals include “to establish in public’s mind that Exxon is a corrupt institution that has pushed humanity (and all creation) toward climate chaos and grave harm,” according to an agenda of the meeting viewed by The Wall Street Journal. This new legal strategy stems in part from environmentalists’ frustration at what they see as the inadequacy of recent climate deals.

Their hope is to encourage state attorneys general and the U.S. Justice Department to launch investigations and lawsuits that ultimately will change Exxon’s behavior, force it to pay big damages and drive public attention to climate change. “It’s about helping the larger public understand the urgencies of finding climate solutions,” said Lee Wasserman, director of the Rockefeller Family Fund, which hosted the January meeting. “It’s not really about Exxon.”



Exxon and its supporters dismiss the comparison with tobacco. Cigarettes are a harmful, addictive product used by a portion of the public, they say, while fossil fuels are fundamental to the world economy.

In Wednesday’s filing, Exxon’s lawyers say the company has confirmed for more than a decade that it sees the risks of climate change, and that it has publicly advocated for a carbon tax as the best way to regulate carbon emissions.

Full story:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/exxon-fires-back-at-climate-change-probe-1460574535

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/13/wsj-confirms-collusion-behind-exxonknew/

tetris says:
April 13, 2016 at 5:47 pm
Its not just Exxon but the tip of something way more pernicious aimed at any and all organizations that question the politically correct environmental dogma. The White House [read Holdren advising Obama] is hip deep into this and if this campaign gets any traction, why not, even a blog like WUWT could find itself in the cross hairs.

The way in which this is organized politically with state AGs lining up behind Gore and Co, there is enough here to remind those of us old enough of McCarthyism, defined as “the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence”. It also means “the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism.”
Please note the reference to “unfair investigative techniques” and the central objective “to restrict dissent or political criticism”. See the parallels and the problem?

In tackling Exxon the folks organizing this may find themselves staring down a bigger bore barrel than they realize. Should this go to court, something tells me that Exxon will be asking some pointed questions of its own about what GISS, NOAA and other government agencies knew, and in particular when, including evidence of extensive data “adjustments” and a few other pointed questions that come to mind.

Zealots somehow never see it coming when in their fervor they hoist themselves unto the own petards.

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ATheoK says:
April 13, 2016 at 8:06 pm
Sure;
and Mckibben and his ‘friendly’ buds rode their bamboo bicycles across the country to Manhattan, than stayed in Central Park with the other bums?

Meanwhile at the Manhattan, no doubt inexpensive $2 meeting place, they honestly discuss a smear campaign and their intention to;

“…encourage state attorneys general and the U.S. Justice Department to launch investigations and lawsuits that ultimately will change Exxon’s behavior…”

No criminal actions, just lawsuits with intention to harass Exxon and damage their commercial image.

Collusion to harm and damage are key actions leading to RICO interest, against the friendly buds.

“…force it to pay big damages and drive public attention to climate change…”

Again, that delusional concept that harassment alone will bring Exxon to pay big monies…

“It’s about helping the larger public understand the urgencies of finding climate solutions,” said Lee Wasserman, director of the Rockefeller Family Fund, which hosted the January meeting. “It’s not really about Exxon.”

Tawdry shameless fabrications and harassment will help the larger public? No, it isn’t really about Exxon or the larger public.

Such nice harmless activists, working hard on their first RICO violations.

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Mickey Reno says:
April 14, 2016 at 7:45 am
Bill McKibbon is trying to bully and force people’s behavior, not by persuasion and free speech and the political process, but by subverting legal and political processes, by playing on the natural aversion to controversy of large companies like Exxon, and by smears, dirty tricks, harassment and intimidation. Bill is, in every sense of the meaning, a Climate Scientologist.

JPaulLanier, an attitude like yours implies that it cannot be possible for an entire subset of science research to become tendentious and politically corrupt. IF it’s possible, in any way shape or form, that would already invalidate your argument. But there is ample evidence to show that for many of these science clowns like Mann and Trenberth, pulling huge, important meanings out of tiny signals in an ocean of noise, who use computer models to erroneously predict the future but then treat those predictions like gospel, while still using adequate weasel words to cover their own asses, we are seeing this corruption unfold right before our eyes. The mainstream of climate science now has taxpayer money going to fund research into “feminine glacier” narratives for God’s sake. The IPCC is not a scientific organization, it’s a tendentious political association. The people who cannot accept that what you call mainstream climate science is off the rails, corrupt, worse than useless, and in fact, little more than a new public sector interest group, protecting its own rice bowl are the real “deniers.”
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To: Brumar89 who wrote (930591)4/15/2016 3:05:48 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578138
 
"Exxon Strikes Back Against the Climate Witch Hunt"

The tobacco companies tried that, too. Didn't work.
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good news for deniers; no warming since Feb.

March GISS down 0.06°C - hottest March in record.

GISS in March is out. The global average anomaly was 1.28°C; down 0.06°C from Feb, but by a long way the warmest March in the record ( Sou has details, note the YTD map). The result is very close to TempLS mesh, which now shows a 0.04°C drop. TempLS rose quite a lot since announced; commenter Olof thinks that Sudan data pushed it up. The NCEP/NCAR index also dropped by 0.057°C. TempLS grid is now down by only 0.014°C, which suggests that NOAA's March figure may be very close to Feb.

Here is a plot of the comparison with 1998. In that year, March dropped a lot from the February peak, but then recovered somewhat.

I'll show the world GISS map below the fold. It shows the same general pattern as TempLS; a band of warmth from Europe through Russia to the East, and another through Alaska to central Canada, plus Arctic. General warmth in Africa, Australia and Brazil. Colder spots in Labrador, Argentina, Antarctica and the N Pacific.

Here is the GISS map (from here):



And here is the corresponding TempLS spherical harmonics plot:



GISS shows more warmth in the Arctic.

Posted by Nick Stokes at 4:33 AM

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (930591)4/15/2016 5:06:49 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578138
 
I've just had the first snowless winter of my lifetime......ie never had to remove any, never took the cover off the snow blower....