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To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (10352)12/29/1997 10:03:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Respond to of 39621
 
Robert, In the 2 Thess. verse it refers to Gentiles in Thessalonica being like the Jews that all killed the Lord Jews and Gentiles alike for everyone who has ever sinned caused a part of the Lord Yeshuas sacrifice for sinners. The Gentile non believers are being compared to the Jews but remember in Romans 11 it says that they (Israel, Jews) are enemies of the Gospel on YOUR account. What is the excuse for the Gentiles that are Christ killers, and hostile to all men. You see we are not saying the Jews as humans are better than anyone, clearly not so, all we are saying is that God has a plan, and these people are a part of this plan. The New Covenant that you have been grafted into was made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah and if as you desire they cease to exist then there is no more covenant and what do you think the chances of that are. So save yourself all this agrevation and leave the Jews for God to take care of and focus on the people you do love(your own).For every negative verse you give I can give 10 postitive, the only problem is that in your misunderstanding you take every good verse to mean you and every bad verse to mean the Jews so I think it is funny that you ask if Alan realises what a verse clearly says. One I have for you is Romans 3:1-4 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? MUCH in every way! First of all they have been entrusted with the very words of God. (Surprising for the member of the synagogue of satan) What if some DID NOT HAVE FAITH? WILL THEIR LACK OF FAITH NULLIFY GODS FAITHFULLNESS? NOT AT ALL LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR.You rarely give us answers to the verses we give where I try to give my understanding of the verses you give. Another verse that needs to be answered (just as I print it as you do) is Romans 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all Rather because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles TO MAKE ISRAEL ENVIOUS. Don't think to many Jews are going to be jealous of what you are producing, I can go on and on with the obvious reason for you to be respectfull to the people Paul said he would give up his very salvation for. You do not seem to understand how you look to other people. Others are saying you are evil and hostile and some have even left this thread in the past beacuse of Emile. So all of you need to stop and do a fruit check. I know my husband and he is the kindest most humble and loving person to all people I have ever known so I am sure you are speaking in the flesh when you accuse him of being proud for I have not seen a proud bone in his spirit. When we started this thread everyone was saying they are the spiritual Jews and the true Israel of God that sounds like pride to me.Satan used scripture when he tempted the Lord in the desert and his name satan means accuser in Hebrew. You are accusing the people from whom comes your salvation, they have not their Messiah so the time of the Gentiles be completed and your lack of respect for their problems shows a serious hostility like you quote from 1 Thess.

Nancy



To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (10352)12/29/1997 10:42:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Respond to of 39621
 
Robert;

You have no love all you know how to do is point fingers and Judge. I know of more non believing people in my life that show more love and compassion than you could ever hope to have, if you think you are going to win Gods love by being a dictator you are a fool. Yes Robert your belief is all the Jews that were executed in the Holocaust are going to burn in Hell forever what kind of monster are you. Yes we should blow Israel out of the water for according to your beliefs they worship Satan.

Correct me if I am wrong you would have no problem standing in front of a Jewish Temple with a sign saying inside are Jews who worship Satan. Tell me if what I am saying is not correct.

So what is the difference between you and the KKK tell me.

Does not the KKK say that Jews worship Satan.

Does not the KKK say the Jews are Christ killers.

So were do you differ.

Alan