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To: Brumar89 who wrote (69999)	5/13/2016 10:28:07 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

Bill Nye At It Again May 13, 2016 By Paul Homewood https://twitter.com/BillNye/status/730405932933496832 Bill Nye the “Science” Guy has been at it again! Meanwhile, back in the real world, tornadoes are so far year this year below average. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/#data And in the longer term, there has been a clearly declining trend in stronger tornadoes. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends Nye is no more than a huckster, pure and simple. It is sad that there are so many gullible people about who actually believe him. https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/bill-nye-at-it-again/ When you see someone posting pics of tornados or hail storms or floods and pretending these unfortunately normal weather events as caused by climate change, you know you're dealing with a huckster. We could go zero FF's and there would still be tornados.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (69999)	5/13/2016 10:31:25 AM
From: Eric	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

... California has ties to massive coal-fired plants located near the large coal deposits of the mountain states. Southern California Edison owns a stake in the Four Corners Power Plant, and "the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) operates the coal-fired Intermountain power plant in Utah, which delivers almost all of its output to LADWP and other California municipal utilities," according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration."Due to high electricity demand, And that number will continue to decline as more solar gets built out in California. Cheaper and cheaper. Not to mention much, much cleaner and sustainable with the health and environmental benefits. Something that's impossible with coal fired generation.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (69999)	5/14/2016 12:43:14 PM
From: Eric	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

Well their hydropower production was down substantially last year due to the drought. Much more meltwater now for them to generate power this year. Much better snowpack in the Sierra Nevada mountains today. Plus we are sending down south record amounts of power from the Columbia this spring. It's great having renewables pick up more of the loads down there. And with more wind and solar being installed that trend just continues to displace more and more FF generation permanently.