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To: pgerassi who wrote (16090)	6/1/2016 8:10:14 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 72316

1) Yeah, AMD has to double up all the time. They actually showed a slide in this presentation showing a doubled 480 vs Nvidia 1080. 2) We do have the metric that Apple A9's, same design, was noticeably poorer under heavy load from Samsung than from TSMC. So I think it is a safe bet that Nvidia has a bit of process advantage in power efficiency vs AMD on Samsung derived GF process. So sans some architectural miracle, I think its pretty safe to assume AMD will not take the efficiency pole, and by a reasonable margin. 3) Well they more or less stated this in the presentation. The whole point was to have a cheap card with perf/watt that was much better than their last iteration. But more to the point, what do you think this card does to the rest of the Radeon lineup for June? I have a hard time not believing that sales will tank. Fury is largely obsoleted, by something which won't ship until July.

To: pgerassi who wrote (16090)	6/1/2016 8:16:12 PM
From: neolib	Respond to of 72316

The big question that I see looming is who ends up owning VR: will it be the PC or will it be mobile gadgets. Both camps are chasing what currently is a nascent market that really doesn't amount to much currently. My guess is mobile wins this new space. The PC side of it will be much smaller in volume vs the mobile side, and consequently much more development and a more robust ecosystem will evolve around mobile VR than around PC based VR. So ARM and Qualcomm graphics are going to be a much more important segment of VR than either AMD or Nvidia.