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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10392)	12/30/1997 5:36:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Emile, The scriptures you take out of context to suit your own evil thoughts are surely not anti-semetic and I am sure were said with concern not with a tone of victory as you say them. Remember Jesus wept over Jerusalem when He spoke of their rejection. But again in 1 Peter 2:8 before the one that you use so often which by the way I agree with so you are totally wasting your time with it. It says that they were pre-destined to stumble. God foreknew they would stumble so what is your point the anti-semetic comments you make are from a desire to find failure, Gods desire is for truth and sorrow for the people He loves.In 1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who are the children of the devil are:Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is ANYONE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER. So there are other times this term is used for all people who are not seeing what the Lord is saying to them. It is not a perment condition but it says in 1 John 3:8 The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devils work. I believe that was accomplished so the term children of the devil has no more place. Some chose to serve satan but his works like lying in John 8:44 have been destroyed. It is finished. You know I am sure that was the main verse used by Hitler in his persecution of the Jews and that he said God told him to do. I would like to know if you agree with Hitler? And don'y side step it with the other p[eople that suffered you and I know that every Jew in Europe was a victim and some Gentiles which is beyond comprehension that he would destroy anyone to me, but I am asking you specificaly about the Jews. Shalom is right that the sons of Jacob Judah included are the true Israel of God and the Gentiles that are grafted into that root. The verses from Paul are not saying anything bad like they are liars and children of the devil no he just says that it is not wise to put confidence of your salvation in the flesh. I totaly agree and have told many Jewish people that it is not wise. Acts 28:27 is a quote from Isaiah 6:9-10 and was not from Pauls words. Even then I have never said they are perfect we have all fallen short of the glory of God nor do I say there is salvation from any other Name all I do say is like there is still male and female there is still Jew and Greek because God has a plan and is faithful to the end of the ages. When you state the fact that there has to be blood for their sins,how do you account for Daniel the prophet and Abraham who lived before the sacrificial system? God is bigger than you give him credit for and I wish I could feel like all your arguements were based on concern for the Jews but your credability as a believer is gone. Remember those who do not love their brothers are children of the devil as well. The verses from Luke are fact since according to Romans 11 the Gentiles received salvation that they might provoke the Jews to jealousy and the wrath the early Church recieved is what the Jews are recieving today. Acts 2 Peter was encouraging them with the truth not condeming them and states that God had forknowledge of the crucifixion. It is not according to me that my Lord is anti-semetic that is your application and evil intent to what I said. It does not make since to me that He would call His Mother Mary a child of the devil. So I am sure you have some elaborate secret way of excluding Mary from her people but you will have to read it into the scriptures. Your ideas are fuiled by emotions over what you have been taught and you can not see that Jesus loved His mother and His brethren Israel. Even Caiaiphas and all He loves sinners,I am sure because He loves me too. Nancy