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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (943769)6/29/2016 12:50:49 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573069
 
In this Image taken during an organized trip by the Libyan authorities, men demonstrate their support for Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in Tripoli, Sunday March 20, 2011. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)

The real Benghazi scandal was Obama's drive-by war in Libya

By TIMOTHY P. CARNEY ( @TPCARNEY)5/13/14 5:33 PM

There is a real Benghazi scandal and it's this: President Obama illegally invaded Libya, overthrew Moammar Gadhafi, and then--due to politics--left a power vacuum that terrorists filled, turning Libya into a hotbed of jihadist groups. The 2012 attack that killed four Americans was a consequence of the disorder and violence the administration left in the wake of its drive-by war.

The useful lesson from Benghazi isn't about a White House lying (shocking!), but about the inherent messiness of regime change and the impossibility of a quick, clean war.

'How can I cabin our commitment?'
This scandal doesn't begin in Benghazi on September 11, 2012. It begins in Brazil on March 19, 2011. Obama used an audio address from Brazil to announce he was sending the U.S. military into Libya's civil war. He never asked Congress for permission. He didn't even announce it from the Oval Office. He just took us to war as if it wasn't a big deal -- because he wanted it to be a small deal.

Obama wanted an American war, but he wanted a mini-war. Writer Michael Lewis, who spoke with Obama as he made his decision, paraphrased the message Obama gave to our NATO allies: “We'll do most of the actual bombing because only we can do it quickly, but you have to clean up the mess afterward.”

Lewis quoted Obama as telling him: “What I didn’t want, is a month later a call from our allies saying, ‘It’s not working—you need to do more.’ So the question is: How can I cabin our commitment in a way that is useful?”

There would be no occupation and no boots on the ground, Obama insisted. The Bush administration had dragged the U.S. into a decade-long occupation of Iraq because if “you break it, you buy it.” Obama wanted to break Gadhafi and then walk out of the store.

Americans had little appetite for a third war in the Muslim world. Obama presumably knew that, which is why he flouted the Constitution and skirted Congressional approval. (Congress was probably grateful for this.)

But to gain even slight support from the public – or, more likely, grudging tolerance – Obama had to promise a “cabin[ed] commitment.”

Obama’s drive-by strategy in Libya was a disaster—morally and strategically.

CNN reported "Libya's government has been unable to impose its authority over a myriad of militia groups that have grown in power and influence since the 2011 revolution that toppled longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi."

Libya's latest prime minister was driven into hiding by violent threats. Much of the country is utterly ungoverned and, as the Daily Beast's national security writer Eli Lake put it, “its lawless regions provide an ideal haven for al Qaeda affiliates and fellow travelers."

Liberated from the murderous Gadhafi, Libya became "a jihadist melting pot,” in the words of one national security official Lake spoke to.

The chaos has spread. Libya's borders with Tunisia and Algeria have seen a huge uptick in smuggled gasoline, weapons, and drugs. The New York Times reported in early 2013 that “weapons looted from the colonel's stockpiles could find their way to militants in sub-Saharan Africa.”

Four different terrorist groups have shown their faces in Libya since Gadhafi was deposed, Lake reported: al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Al-Mulathameen Brigade, and Ansar al-Sharia.

Which brings the story back to Benghazi. Ansar al-Sharia played a role in the deadly 2012 raid of the U.S. diplomatic facility there. Obama's insistence on "no boots on the ground" may have left the American diplomats and intelligence operators less protected than they needed to be.

Also, the violence arose from the chaos NATO left behind, as shown by early drafts of public talking points drafted for Ambassador Susan Rice.

These talking points discussed "the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa'ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya.” One point read "Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants."

Someone in the administration — perhaps aware of how these points indicted the White House's drive-by approach to Libya — spiked these talking points. Also deleted: "The wide availability of weapons and experienced fighters in Libya almost certainly contribute to the lethality of the attacks."

War is messy. Obama tried to make war in Libya clean. Benghazi is a blood stain on that war — one of many.

Timothy P. Carney, The Washington Examiner's senior political columnist, can be contacted at tcarney@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears Sunday and Wednesday on washingtonexaminer.com.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (943769)6/29/2016 1:47:10 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573069
 
To My Less-Evilism Haters: A Rejoinder to Halle and Chomsky
by ANDREW SMOLSKI



John Halle has taken to calling my CounterPunch article, No Lesser Evil, Not This Time, “idiotic” and part of the “lunatic and sociopathic left”. These pathetic and childlike insults are part of a left that spends more time giving itself a thousand cuts than one good jab at the common enemy. I was even more hurt to read that Chomsky, quoted by Halle, thinks my article represents “”left…self-destruction” that is “adding new dimensions” through “contemporary irrationality and refusal to think”.

Hurt, because I respect Chomsky’s work, having driven 12 hours to just interview him for 40 minutes, and being an avid reader of his philosophy, linguistics, and political analysis. I was saddened to learn he lacks political imagination at a time that calls for demanding the impossible. Even more, I was baffled by the aggression, when my article was respectful in tone; the response has been the furthest from.

Worse yet, Halle and Chomsky are decidedly wrong in their assessment, hiding behind their religious belief that the utilitarian logic they employ is obvious and a priori correct. They willfully ignore that the logic of lesser evil voting (LEV) is a causal mechanism pushing the political structure to the right. They cannot fathom that their strategy is part of the rightward drift, even while they admit that that rightward trend exists, which is why, in Chomsky’s words, Democrats are now “Moderate Republicans”.

Simply put, their political strategy on voting is bollocks, straight up.

If you advocate that third parties should be abandoned in contentious states, then you are advocating that third parties should be abandoned. We can call this the “risk nothing, win nothing” political strategy. When there is a left flank, Chomsky and Halle have advocated that it should be abandoned if it threatens the Democratic contender against a Republican. Why should the Democrats care about progressive demands when the Congressional Progressive Caucus is only 29% of the party and there is no left flank to apply pressure? And why should they feel threatened by a left flank that will abandon itself as soon as there is anything substantial at risk?

Think Nader in 2000. Now every four years that “spoiler” argument is pulled out, which has become a sardonic display of manufacturing consent for the LEV.

Because they themselves treat the Democrats as the most left option in contentious elections, and openly advocate against voting for third parties in those contests, they relinquish any possible power people could have over the Democrats. If anything, the self-destruction of the left occurs when scions of the left advocate against it as a matter of pragmatism, a pragmatism that actually reproduces the American political apparatuses rightward drift. Thus, they are actively supporting the blackmail of American formal democracy and scolding anyone who doesn’t accept it.

LEV has been a quadrennial present of radical public intellectuals to all the rotten structures of movements that have long since decayed. The labor movement, especially the bureaucracy, has tied itself so fundamentally to the Democratic party that the SEIU endorsed Clinton, a candidate who didn’t even support their campaign for a $15 minimum wage. That sirs, that is suicide, to actively vote against your own stated interest, to vote against your own largest ongoing labor campaign. Is it any wonder with allies like these why the annual number of work stoppages involving 1,000 workers or more are at an all-time low of 12, down from highs in the 400s?

Should there be any surprise that xenophobia is on the rise under a President who has become known as the Deporter-in-Chief? Chomsky himself labeled the Obama administration “champion in deportation”. It is this deportation apparatus, put on steroids over the last 8 years, that has been destroying families. It is an apparatus that will be continued under either Clinton or Trump, along with expansion of the private prison system that turned incarcerated bodies into profit. Truly, how can we call something “lesser” when it creates the framework for the “more”. It is foolish to do so, and only sensible if we ignore chronological order in causal relations.

When will we stop accepting the ludicrous notion that Democrats care about climate? Under the Obama Administration arctic drilling was approved, which only was stopped due to the drop in oil prices, itself a result of overproduction. Further, CO2 has continued its exponential increase, with a 1.5-degree Celsius rise in temperature already a foregone conclusion. This fact is written off as frivolous in comparison to imagined, nightmarish Republican attacks. Back in reality, it doesn’t matter who rhetorically accepts climate change when there is no reduction in greenhouse gas emissions in either case (i.e. the effects of policy, despite the rhetoric, is the same). Exclaiming that the Republicans will do away with the EPA, while Democrats push a trade agreement that would allow corporations to sue and abolish regulations that interfere with profits, is to not understand that there are many roads to ruin. As I said before, damned if you do, damned if you don’t, and no less damneder a situation on the horizon.

Actually, and as any leftist should intuitively understand, what matters are the movements, the alternative structures that can apply pressure on the current political order. What matters for changing environmental policy are the level of environmentalism and environmental activism, not politician’s rhetorical beliefs (see Welch and Mazur in The Environmental State Under Pressure for an empirical study). If you think getting behind a politician who is the largest recipient of fossil fuel cash is the lesser evil on climate, you are woefully naïve. Don’t worry, I am sure the candidate supported by Henry Kissinger will allow Bolivia to continue calling for respect for Pachamama and the repayment of ecological debt. I know Kissinger acolytes have always been good stewards for left movements worldwide.

Yet, we who say “Never with Her!”, we draw the ire!

Even odder about the retort that the Republicans are worse is that Chomsky says in a BBC interview that “in many ways [Obama] is worse” than Bush or Blair. He then goes on to list ways that Obama is worse, such as the escalation of the conflict in Afghanistan which was destabilizing Pakistan. This is the same Obama who Chomsky said was the “lesser evil” against John McCain. So, Obama is the lesser evil, but is more evil than 2000’s more evil Bush, when Chomsky was exclaiming that Gore was the lesser evil. We can only imagine how evil our LEV will be if this poor political strategy is allowed to limp along much more.

And this is the exact issue, the poor political strategy of it all. The people putting forward a decent political strategy are being ignored. Kshama Sawant and Jill Stein who’ve been calling for Bernie and his supporters to break and support a third party are effectively demonized by this LEV strategy. By saying we should do anything to stop Trump regardless of its negative effects on organizing alternatives, we admit to the Democrats that we on the left are captives. We won’t lay any groundwork for the future, but instead we will ensure four more years of political terrain that saw the violent, coordinated repression of Occupy, the sprouting anew of fascism in the context of an economic wasteland, and the continued expansion of the surveillance state and the military-industrial complex. We will kick the can down the road another four years, with the high probability of dealing with something far worse and no principled opposition around, because that opposition sullied its political capital on the LEV blight.

What if instead of Chomsky getting coverage for supporting Clinton as the LEV in swing states, he spent his time calling for Bernie to break from the Democrats and begin building an alternative party? What if Halle and Chomsky spent the same amount of energy advocating with Kshama Sawant and Jill Stein? What if we had a radical imagination in the US again?

Look, like I said, I respect Chomsky immensely. I think it is ridiculous to call Chomsky a “Zionist double agent”, gatekeeper, or other such nonsense. Further, I understand if people want to vote Hillary to stop Trump. I don’t think it is an effective strategy, nor do I think she is a lesser evil, but understandable considering the Oompa Loompa’s insanity. However, when LEV supporters begin labeling fellow leftists lunatics, and all sorts of other garbage, they should be called out for their bogus argument, which is counterproductive to the current task, the building of a radical left.

Due to such behavior, Halle has proven himself incapable of holding a mature debate with anyone who dissents. He uses the conspiracists to deflect and avoid having to enter into earnest debate about important strategic matters.

Halle is the lowliest type of hater.

Whatever may come, I hope we unite to confront the right and the dark tide that haunts the world. I am optimistic, we all should be.

Solidarity.

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Andrew Smolski is a writer and sociologist.