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To: charles messick who wrote (4115)	12/31/1997 2:16:00 AM
From: IRVINESULLY	Respond to of 11708

Thanks for an update Chuck. Lots of excitement building, and the first of the year is just two days away. Things seem to be falling in place one by one.

To: charles messick who wrote (4115)	12/31/1997 2:29:00 AM
From: TraderGreg	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 11708

If I might add some reinforcement to Charles' post, let's look at the four components of CSMA: o AdHatters--the original income producer. If I may be so bold as to make this comparison, AdHatters is to CSMA what Thomas Alva's light bulb was to GE. But with all due respect, AdHatters is not why we invested in Coconino. o Oil/gas operations-We all know the loooooooooong lead times in this sector. It has a greater capital intensive aspect associated with it and far greater risk of coming up with a dry well (pun intended) o EnviroTec-A real potential here, given the well passes environmental review AND the legislature approves it AND the governor signs it AND compliance rates are sufficient. Not to downplay this, but there are time factors to consider BEFORE the revenues appear. o LPS-While it is impossible to even venture the wildest guess as to what this operation can generate, we do know this. In November, the infrastructure was formulated to utilize 3,000 insurance agents and a large number of credit/labor unions and trade associations representing 500,000 members(!) to market financial programs to their clients/members. The management fees that can accrue can be quite significant, depending on the sign up rates that these representatives can achieve and the amount of the annual fee that is charged. What makes LPS significantly different from either EnviroTec or the oil/gas ventures is the ramp up time. IMHO, it is significantly shorter. EnviroTec can not realistically process a single ounce of Class V waste before May; oil/gas may hit a gusher soon but the failure rate and cost of operations must always be considered. LPS, on the other hand, has quickly added on a very large sales force to market its product nationwide. To the best of my knowledge, this is not MLM but rather a very broad based operation with diverse players(insurance agents, union reps, credit unions, even pastors!). As I said, it is ludicrous to even guesstimate since many won't actively participate, we don't know what the average investment will be nor the specifics of the management fees that can be charged. The key about LPS is that the framework is here now... And if 10 % of the reps sign up 1 client a week(from an already existing client base!!!) who invests $10,000 and they collect 1/2 % management fee, not to mention yearly residuals, and future year investments from both new and existing clients. Hell, LPS may be to CSMA what GE Capital is to GE !!...there I go again. Somebody slap me. TG