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To: combjelly who wrote (947264)7/15/2016 1:08:19 PM
From: TimF1 Recommendation

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jlallen

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There is no right to scam people

True, but irrelevant to this situation.



To: combjelly who wrote (947264)7/15/2016 1:11:24 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 1576016
 
Message 30659157

WHAT PHONY OP-EDS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE HAVE IN COMMON

Beginning in 1999, the Department of Justice pursued (and ultimately won) a civil lawsuit against several major tobacco companies. By denying the negative health effects of tobacco, the suit alleged, the industry was engaging in fraud. Today, researchers often compare the fossil fuel industry’s support for an array of groups that propagate climate change denial to the tobacco industry’s pattern of denial of the dangers of its product. Last spring, I wrote an opinion piece recommending a similar civil investigation into the fossil fuel industry for spreading fraudulent information about climate change. At a subsequent Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, I asked Attorney General Loretta Lynch whether the Justice Department had taken steps consistent with a civil fraud investigation to explore the industry’s possible culpability.

An extraordinary barrage of opinion pieces ensued, more than 100 all told, asserting—wrongly—that any such investigation would be a violation of the First Amendment. I say “wrongly” because it is actually settled law—even cited in the tobacco case itself—that fraud is not protected speech under the First Amendment. This raises the question whether the phony “science” supporting climate denial has a twin in equally phony “opinion” writing.



To: combjelly who wrote (947264)7/15/2016 1:59:44 PM
From: i-node2 Recommendations

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jlallen
TimF

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>> There is no right to scam people, though.

Who, specifically, was "scammed" and who, specifically, had any demonstrable loss from the scam? How much?