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To: TideGlider who wrote (956286)	8/12/2016 5:55:18 PM
From: Bonefish	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574189

I'll save Jelly the google. Tim Kaine, who gladly stepped aside for Debbie Riggerwoman Shultz. Funny how he got the VP slot. Payback?

To: TideGlider who wrote (956286)	8/12/2016 8:43:07 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574189

Yes. Not sure why this is important. Did she promise him a VP slot if he played ball? Probably not. Any campaign would be 8 years away and any VP pick would be dependent on the dynamics of the time. Kaine, if anyone, would understand that. Did she promise him consideration? Wouldn't be surprised. There was, no doubt a really long people she had indicated she would consider. It is a political party. Things like VP selections are usually made from party loyalists. People like Caribou Barbie are rarely VP picks. What happened in the wake of her selection illustrates why. She isn't exactly someone the party loyalists are happy with. Political parties are pretty much like any human institution. They are built on the human relationships that are developed over many years. There is a wild card in the deck called "primaries" which can produce unanticipated factors. The Democrats decided, wrongly in my opinion, that they lost elections because of outsiders with unconventional views were being selected for their presidential candidates. So they put in place certain things like the superdelegates to make sure the party had a say in the final results. The rules are very transparent and should be factored in by any potential candidate. If the potential candidate realizes that and takes them into account, even a relative outsider can win. Just ask Obama. He played by the rules and took advantage of them. Hillary didn't do that in 2008 and she lost as a result. The Republicans didn't worry as much. Their candidates since Reagan were acceptable to the party structure and, more importantly, they won. The exceptions to winning were Bush the Greater, Dole and McCain. Party stalwarts all, albeit McCain went off the reservation with his pick of Bible Spice. So they don't have as many arcane twists and turns. Even the outlier, Bush the Lesser, was not so much an outsider as he was fast tracked. That has worked for them until Trump. He essentially caught them flatfooted and led to a lot of handwringing over his very unorthodox campaign. I am willing to bet they looked longingly at the Democratic superdelegates, although they wouldn't have made much of a difference in the end. For human organizations, the two parties are not particularly arcane unless you want to follow the flow of money. That is very obscure and needs a lot more transparency. Especially in light of the fact they both depend on tax payer money for a lot of things. Like the primaries and the conventions.