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To: E who wrote (8192)	1/1/1998 11:32:00 AM
From: R.B. Golfing	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 31646

The MikeWinn/8124 syndrome Roughly defined as the well intentioned, very opinionated, totally incredulous technical person that occupy jobs in engineering and management throughout the manufacturing industry. "Prove it to me and then I will believe it". The examples Mike gave in his 8124 post and his reasons for not believing there is a Y2K problem on the plant floor are probably going to be typical of the type of objections Tpro will face in sales situations. The lumber plant example he gave is easily countered . - The PC that monitors the PLC in his example might have an non-compliant bios, - the PC might use a DOS or early Windows based SCADA package that is on the non-compliant list, - it most likely doesn't have the mainframe link he describes but there might very well be a custom program in ladder logic, C, basic, Access 2.0, Paradox, etc. that triggers a data save operation based on shift and day of week, and oh by the way, the programmer who did this used to write basic and cobol acct systems and decided to use 2 digit dates. - This is actually an excellent example of a system that will go on the suspect list if subjected to a PlantY2Kone process. As for his view of TPRO as ". mainly a low tech integration house", IT people and others afflicted with 8124 cannot seem to appreciate the significance of mission critical control system integration work that makes their production lines run, and keeps them in business. Maybe a embedded microprocessor for the microwave oven in my kitchen is therefore high tech. Regarding the Search engine, unless you understand the type of programming we do in control system work (ladder logic, basic in PLC "basic modules", C in PLC coprocessors, Wonderware scripts, etc.), how can you criticize a product that is made to address the specific areas where a 2-digit date might have been used by the programmer? Maybe one of TAVA's biggest challenges in making the PlantY2Kone product successful is to get passed the awareness/acceptance phase of people with 8124. Or, maybe they are just not bothering with sales efforts at this level, because there is enough activity with large Fortune xxx Y2K committees that have a commitment to year 2000 remediation. Happy New Year to all, and please be nice to Mike, because he is certainly well intentioned and sincere in his technical opinions. I don't think he is the enemy of TPRO, but maybe just representative of the some of the sales objections they will face. <I just had to come out of lurking this one time>.