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To: Rambi who wrote (28)1/1/1998 4:44:00 PM
From: Janice Shell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4710
 
I have stopped using the word "forte", referring to a quality in which someone excels, because I pronounce it with the preferred 'fort' and not 'for-tay' and I'm tired of people looking at me as if I were stupid.

I hear you. Pisses me off, too. I use it, though, and glare at 'em if they get uppity.



To: Rambi who wrote (28)1/1/1998 5:12:00 PM
From: Jack Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4710
 
Hi Penni:

The main reason English is so rich compared with French is because of the influx of so many Latin/French words brought in with the Norman conquest. Just read Chaucer "Of which vertu engendred is the flour."

I did the same thing you did with forte. If we were strong enough in our own self images or egos, Penni, we wouldn't give a damn what the illiterati thought about our pronunciation.

Incidentally, I notice with interest the construction in your last sentence:

Once someone posts in a forum such as this, has she set herself up to be read very critically?

Your method is an excellent idea for getting around the he/she business with the words someone, anyone, anybody, everyone etc. Gramatically these words take a singular pronoun, and in those old pre-PC days, it had to be he. Now people usually make the choice among
(1) being grammatically incorrect but politically correct:

Will everyone please take their seat?

(2) being gramatically correct but awkward:

Will everyone please take his or her seat?

(3) changing the sentence to avoid the problem:

Will all students please take their seats?

But, Penni your solution, which I have seen proposed, to me is the best. If the writer is female, use the feminine singular pronoun. If male, the masculine.

These are interesting discussions.

Jack



To: Rambi who wrote (28)1/1/1998 6:43:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4710
 
penni: "Once someone posts in a forum such as this, has she set herself up to be read very critically?"

Not I, I am the student on this thread and trying to absorb other's wisdom. So would someone explain to me when should it be "its" and when should it be "it's"?

Another problem that puzzles me is the plethora of uses for the word "right", much too confusing for me.

Last, I was wondering if "throth" should not be the analogue of "both", like "thrice" is the analogue of "twice".

Thank you very much for my next lesson in English.

Zeev