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To: jbershad who wrote (2684)1/1/1998 11:29:00 PM
From: robert w fain  Respond to of 6180
 
I see what you mean about Lucent.Ti also does alot of research but they are good at fabrication also.I think INTEL is the leader and TI is working their way up to that class quickly



To: jbershad who wrote (2684)1/2/1998 12:20:00 AM
From: pat mudge  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6180
 
[ Bell Labs. . .]

<<<No matter Western Electric in Pa. before the break up of
AT&T, was an outstanding development arm of bell labs. >>>

I don't know where you were headed with the Bell Labs discussion, but I'll add my 2 cents and let those more knowledgeable correct where I'm wrong.

I believe Western Electric broke off of Bell Labs and became WesCom --- led by RC Penny, the first maker of local loop teleco equipment. At some point they were bought out by Rockwell International in what must have been a hostile takeover b/c after the deal was complete (1980?), the top engineers left and started their own company which they called Westell. Robert C Penny (pere) wasn't involved but some time down the road when the company needed money, he was approached and became a large shareholder. The current Penny --- RC the third --- controls approximately 80% of the company, though takes no administrative role whatsoever.

I believe the original Bell Labs is part of Lucent. And speaking of LU, what are the chances TI will do an ADSL chip for them?

Hey, glad you had a great ski trip. Or at least I hope it was great. I'm trying to figure out when to go and where. I'll probably do Tahoe (Squaw) early in February and maybe Whistler before the season's over. My favorite is Snowbird in Utah and knowing me, that's where I'll end up. :)

BTW, who won the Rose Bowl? I just got back from seeing LA Confidential and I haven't heard.

Later ---

Pat



To: jbershad who wrote (2684)1/2/1998 1:10:00 AM
From: SteveG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6180
 
<..they may come up with something big...>

from techweb.com

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Lucent claims the DSP16210 [...the first offering in their 16000 "Sabre" series...] consumes up to five times less power and requires up to five times less memory than other DSPs, but performance wasn't overlooked along the way.

As DSP feature sizes drop below a half micron and supply voltages approach 1 V, performance gains are harder to obtain because of the laws of physics, said Jim Boddie, director of wireless and multimedia technology at Bell Labs.

"Our solution is not just to shrink the chip, but to perform more functions in parallel," Boddie said.

Lucent's chip uses a dual 16-bit x 16-bit MAC design coupled with a bank of eight 40-bit accumulators to accelerate performance. Operating at 3 V, the device is capable of 200 million MAC operations/s. An on-chip 62-Kx16 dual-port RAM helps conserve power, according to the company.

Lucent officials expect the chip to cost approximately $50 in quantities of 100,000 or more. Production volumes will be available in 1998.

The Lucent chip will compete with Texas Instruments Inc.'s TMS320C6X, which uses a dual-MAC architecture.

Dallas-based TI takes a different approach: a very-long-instruction-word architecture that fetches eight instructions at a time and, based on 1 bit in each instruction, executes between one and eight of the instructions in parallel.

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see also:

techweb.com

techweb.com

And LU is also involved with FPGA's and cores, which will be competitive with many DSP applications in filling the ASIC/DSP gap.

Excellent review at: zdnet.com

Steve