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To: Ed Schultz who wrote (4586)1/2/1998 5:26:00 PM
From: johnd  Respond to of 74651
 
Folks:

I expect the US markets (Dow Jones, S&P) to slow down this year
even with low interest rate environments. The overall market
cannot sustain 26%, 33%, 21% type growth rates. The stocks overall
won't fall much, thanks to low interest rates. If you sell equities,
where do you put that money? (If not in bonds). So I think the stocks
will hold for some 5% - 10% type of gains in the voerall market.

But MSFT will significantly outperform the overall market.

- Starting this year, MSFT will have to start reporting all the
defered revenues and corresponding profits

- Staritng this year MSFT has to report earnings both fully diluted
and without (considering option execrcises and withtout.)

- Backoffice with NT4.0, 5.0 will beat today's estimates

- MSFT will pick a significant chunk of e-commerce revenues.

Having said this, MSFT is on it's way to earn $3.15 in CY97
My projection is that MSFT will earn 27% more in CY98 or $4.00.

I can't tell what PE MSFT will trade at 1 year from now.
But depending on a range of PE from 35 - 60, the stocks can
be anywhere from 140 - 240. I will pick the mid point of PE
at 47 and stock at 190 for this stock to be trading at 1 year
from now.



To: Ed Schultz who wrote (4586)1/2/1998 6:58:00 PM
From: Bill Fischofer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Re: Market Caps

I agree that $400 in 3 years may be a tad aggressive but to argue that MSFT cannot get there because its market cap would be "too large" is missing the point. MSFT will be worth much more than that by 2010. While the notion of a company commanding a trillion dollar market cap may seem outrageous today, remember that market caps of 10, 50, and 100 billion dollars were seemingly "impossible" not so long ago. The 21st century global information ecomonmy will be tens of trillions of dollars per annum in size. Companies supplying the critical infrastructure of that economy such as MSFT, INTC, CSCO, CPQ, and EMC will be very handsomely rewarded. That's why I consider them core holdings.



To: Ed Schultz who wrote (4586)1/2/1998 10:24:00 PM
From: X-Ray Man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651
 
1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Agree

Very much my reasoning too.

I don't think that I said MSFT has reached its peak.

HP is already backpedalling somewhat on NT, because alot
of their customer base won't abandon UNIX. Let's see what
IBM says at MacWorld Tuesday. IBM tries to play all directions
at the same time. Their dropping $$$ support for NT on PPC
I read as a negative. KPMG is stuck fast on MSFT tits.

Exactly, THE question is what share MSFT will get. Will they
get the same 90% share in other markets that they have on
the desktop OS that got them to where they are today? To
that, I say not likely, because alot of other companies know
what is at stake this time around.

I did not say there will be a reduction in investment rate. I
just think the market will move out of favor to the current degree
as preferred instrument. Currently, it is the pre-retirement
boomers that are driving this, mostly via mutual funds. As the
boomers now enter their mid-fifties, the mix may go from nearly
all stocks to other instruments, especially as volatility is now
teaching the lesson that the arrow isn't always up. I expect
more investment in bonds and real estate than the past few years.

Asian difficulties will "blow over", but it will take a few years
before profit centers for sales to growing asain markets start to
drive earnings across the board again. Plus, there will be an
election year coming up, with lame duck admin, likely not to help
the market either. Also I expect Greenspan to retire during
this period.

Another way to look at it is that I see a whole range of combination
of different events and conditions made the MSFT and general market
runup possible the last few years, and that the same conditions
will not likely continue. And I also think that MSFT may not
undergo the necessary transformation from a high-tech company
to a media conglomerate necessary for it to wisely invest and
use that market capitalization and cash. It will require a very
different corporation to do that, something that few seem to
recognize.

Well, that's all. Back to watching my AAPL options, making some
quick $$$ on the normal pre-MacWorld runup...