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To: zax who wrote (975195)	10/25/2016 6:14:15 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1573377

When a massive failure looms on the horizon, the first thing those on the Right do is figure out who to blame. Typical for the party of personal responsibility. Because responsibility, like taxes are for the little people.

To: zax who wrote (975195)	10/26/2016 9:04:01 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573377

Yes, it was widely discussed during the primaries and there were news articles on the phenomenom: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/03/02/so-far-trump-wins-open-primaries-and-cruz-wins-closed-and-the-calendar-is-starting-to-change-toward-more-closed-primaries/?utm_term=.d35a705cc863 ......... In 2008 the Republican Primary brought 445,677 people to vote. The Democrat Primary got 532,468 people. In 2012, when Democrats felt confident that only Barack would be nominated this changed dramatically. This became 603,770 voters in the Republican Primary while Barack Obama was declared "unopposed" (which meant no Democrats needed to vote for their party, all could interfere in Republican elections). In 2016 we had 712,633 votes cast in the Republican Primary. Interestingly enough 3 counties had very low turnout. Two of these three are primarily rural regions. ........... Deeper looking finds that Democrat Counties often voted for Trump at 15-25% (average of 20% almost looks like) higher than the next highest candidate. ........... 1) Trump probably won close to 170,000 Democrat spoiler votes. Yes that many came out to spoil the election and I just do not see a spike in Kasich, Bush, or Carson enough to validate them having got those votes. 2) Rubio likely won some Democrat votes in his Southern County of Charleston as well as the votes Trump got. I estimate approximately 3,000 votes across the State went to assist Rubio in putting him over the top, perhaps as high as 7,000. 3) A reduction of 170,000 votes would make Trump be a low 3rd placer. The difference with the Rubio gains would also put Ted Cruz in 1st place with Rubio a close 2nd. ............ Verification will be easy on this as well. When the Democrats hold their Primary in South Carolina expect that they will have less than 390,000 votes between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. This will reflect that a large turnout went directly to spoil the Republican election in S. Carolina. [ Actual Dem turnout was 367K* indicating a bunch of Dems voted for Trump I/o one of the Dem candidates. Proposition verified. ]* https://www.facebook.com/notes/michael-harrington/a-perspective-of-the-s-carolina-primary-and-how-democrats-spoiled-it/1495893357094580/

To: zax who wrote (975195)	10/26/2016 9:51:06 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1573377

Crossover votes in open primaries have affected candidate selection in both parties. In 2008, many Republicans took part in something they openly called Operation Chaos. Namely Republicans voting for Obama in Democratic primaries to hurt Hillary's chances. Hillary was seen as the greater evil as they thought she was the most likely of the two to win. That didn't work out well at all. Rush Limbaugh came up with the Operation Chaos name and promoted it on his show. I presume he doesn't mention that anymore. John McCain became the front runner that year in several early open primaries - SC, NH, and a couple others I don't remember. Exit polls indicate he got 40% or more of the Democratic crossover votes in those states and won them based on that. If only registered Republicans had voted in those primaries, McCain would have tied with Romney in one of those states and lost the other three. Why do the DNC and RNC allow open primaries which allow crossover votes from the other party to select their candidates? I think both parties establishments may use crossover voting to counter the perceived extremes of the party's bases.