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To: RJA_ who wrote (123508)10/29/2016 2:20:04 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217754
 
I respectfully suggest you move deeper into your thought about democracy/republics. The thesis of democracy/republics first thought of by the ancient Greeks is simply the idea people have the right to pick their rulers, rather than being ruled by one dictator, tribal chief or another.

But democracy/republics has many drawbacks, but no superior system. When you negate democracy by saying we have a two-party system, you are overlooking the fact that the people have decided on the two-party system, for one reason or another. If the people decided they wanted 10 parties, they are free to have 10 parties. So democracy is still in tact, you just don't like the way it's been manifesting itself, it seems to me.

When I say look deeper, I am suggesting that the two-party system represents something intrinsic about the human species. If you look at other democracies, you will see that they generally come down to two major parties as well and I think there is a specific reason for that.

The two parties in the United States represent two specific lines of thought. The Democratic Party, the Liberal party, is based on new ideas of science and reason. The Republican Party, the conservative party, wants to hold to the established norms and mores.

Some talk about needing a third party, and I always respond, what would that party look like? What would be its philosophy? And of course no one can come up with anything viable, because there isn't anything. Anyway, nothing I know of.

Cheers

<<But up from there, at the county level and beyond at least around here, to have a chance at winning requires being the local D or R party nominee. That is a whole different process, and lots depends on who you know.

Illustrating the process, around here we have two counties, situated geographically just next to each other. One is left wing, the other right wing. A "D" nomination in the first guarantees election. An "R" nomination in the second guarantees election.

The democracy you speak of is fine in theory, but in practice, it is the party nomination that obtains office.



To: RJA_ who wrote (123508)10/29/2016 4:27:47 PM
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Koan doesn't realize he lives in a constitutional republic with Koan everything revolves around the social pact he thinks exists but doesn't called free-lunches. As far as the ancient Greeks-go while Koan may have read them he obviously never understood them.