To: RMF who wrote (976805 ) 10/30/2016 11:36:59 PM From: combjelly Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 1575604 For various reasons, both are pushing boundaries. China is facing a demographics implosion in another decade or so. Their one child policy went on too long and there are now too many incentives to only have one. As a result, they need to establish their spheres of influence before then because their economy will be in real trouble. Maybe they can bribe the other countries around them like they did with the Philippines. Japan is going to be tough to crack, though. Vietnam won't be easy, either. Russia has a different problem. The sanctions are causing real pain. Whatever is the Saudi's game with the price of oil is hurting them too. Their standard of living is on the decline again. Keeping a lid on dissent is getting harder and harder. Putin's last card is patriotism. Putting Russia on a war footing will keep the lid on for a while. Maybe the sanctions will be lifted. Maybe the price of oil will recover. Who knows? At least he can push off problems until later. Right now, he is rattling sabers and trying to destabilize the West. He is taking advantage of the rise of the ultra-nationalists in the US and Europe by funding some and helping in other ways. His forays into cyber warfare might blow up in his face, though. Russia isn't the only country with that capability. Remember Stuxnet? We have learned a lot since we did that to the Iranians. Besides, the biggest threat to Putin are things like the Panama Papers. Uncovering how and where the Russian oligarchs, including Putin, have their money stashed in the West invites that money to be impounded, frozen or even seized under one pretext or another. That could be fun.