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To: jbe who wrote (283)1/2/1998 11:25:00 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4711
 
Hi jbe,

I want to thank you for letting us have a New Year's Party here in your absence and apologise for any mess we've left around. We really had a great time, though! And the input has been fascinating!

Regarding your memory of a pedant who invented the forbidden ending preposition, I think I may have mentioned him in Post 37 but I spelled his name incorrectly (oh NOOOOO!) I've checked and it was Robert Lowth who, in 1762, published A Short Introduction to English Grammar and also came up with the concept that two negatives make a positive (mathematically sound, anyway), the use of "different from" rather than "different to" or "different than", and the distinction between "shall" and "will". My source is Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson; I recommended it to Jack and wholeheartedly recommend it to all.

As for "It is I", I would never think less of anyone who uses "me", but I hate the thought that my children are being labeled pretentious for being correct and saying what is actually comfortable for them. To their ears (and mine) and many of our friends', "It is I" sounds fine! They, as do most people, speak two "languages" and would probably not use it in the locker room. I really don't mean to sound stuffy though, and love Newman's views in A Civil Tongue when he tells of a young man's description in a newspaper about an older man who "became an experiencing person in my life, lending an aura to my developing personality of absolute rapport and communicatory relevance." (Ah-a sympathetic man?) I think that's the kind of bombastic writing you're thinking of (take that, Rev. Lowth).

Anyway, thank you for the hospitality and a wonderful time! I hope we haven't strayed too far off-topic for too long and will be allowed back!
penni



To: jbe who wrote (283)1/3/1998 12:01:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Respond to of 4711
 
As long as you're not ticked off, as one can readily see, I'll bid adieu and take my leave.



To: jbe who wrote (283)1/4/1998 12:35:00 PM
From: J.S.  Respond to of 4711
 
"To be even more specific: it was not the ordinary Joes& certainly not the
foreigners who got my goat"

I am glad to hear that!

(parental tongue, though not native born, American) Joe