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To: i-node who wrote (981671)	11/14/2016 4:45:59 PM
From: Sdgla	1 Recommendation Recommended By i-node Respond to of 1573025

Exactly. Don't think recto can get his head around shipping and import export costs. That applies for all the toys, clothing and other products produced all over the world. Manufacturing and small business has been removed from the domestic US and even if POTUS Trump and his admin of grown up bring back a % jobs will be created and the economy/GDP will move back above the miserable levels 0bama has as his legacy.

To: i-node who wrote (981671)	11/14/2016 5:22:37 PM
From: Heywood40	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573025

They'd have to ship container loads of engineers and skilled tool-makers from China, too. We don't have anywhere near enough workers with those skills. If you were young and unemployed, you might get one of many menial jobs supporting the assembly process, but you wouldn't get a job assembling the phones unless you were a young and unemployed engineer or tool and die maker.

To: i-node who wrote (981671)	11/14/2016 5:52:02 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Respond to of 1573025

The iphone chips are made by Samsung in Korea and TSMC in Taiwan.......

To: i-node who wrote (981671)	11/14/2016 8:28:34 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573025

So, shipping a container full of iphone parts is most costly than a container full of iphones? Likely. You tend to pontificate on issues you know little about. Sort of like Trump. Dunning Kruger can be a bitch. Here are some facts. Electronic components are generally very static sensitive. Or tiny. Often both. So, instead of just using a shovel and filling up containers, they are packaged for transport. If the components are small enough, they are put on a tape, the tape is wound onto spools and the spools are put in anti-static bags and then placed in a cardboard box. The individual spools are not just stacked in the case, but have their own slots in the case so they don't rub against each other. That case is put into another box with more anti-static material. Larger components are put on anti-static trays with its own layers of boxes and anti-static materials. The upshot is that the components occupy more space than they would in an iDevice. Even when you count its own packaging. The boxes are palletized and put into a container. And the container is loaded on a ship. Fun fact, what limits a container is not the weight, that almost never is an issue. It is the volume. It costs the same to ship a container pretty much regardless of the weight. So shipping the components as opposed to a complete iDevice is almost certainly going to run you more. There very well may be some corner cases where the converse is true, but they are going to be few and far between. Surface mount is a child of automatic pick and place machines. Manufacturing modern electronics revolves around their needs. But it is possible to get some of that business back with the right incentives. In particular, if you reduce the after-tax labor cost enough you can make that happen. Nonsense. You don't know much about Apple's business model, do you? As Steven Jobs said years ago, it wasn't so much the price of labor, it is the fact that Foxconn puts their iDevice laborers in dormitories. And they are on call, 24/7. So when Apple needs something, the employees roll out of bed and start to work. For an American company to compete, they will have to offer something similar. Reducing after-tax labor won't get you there.